The Pope and the Condom

[ItzKatzTime]

Well this is a subject that I know I cannot do one thing about.
First the Pope and Codoms then Nostradamas the Entertainer. What a combination. This is the kind of thread that is fun to read.

 

[Lynnie]

i have to call bs here. Nostradamus said no such thing. Those who continue to make a buck or two off of him may have, but nostradamus didn't. Nostradamus and modern psychics/seers should be used for entertainment purposes only, not viewed as viable sources of information.

ok.

 

[Mango]

I have to call BS here. Nostradamus said no such thing. Those who continue to make a buck or two off of him may have, but Nostradamus didn't. Nostradamus and modern psychics/seers should be used for entertainment purposes only, not viewed as viable sources of information.

You obviously have not read the recently found Quatrains of Nostradamus.

Quatrain IIVX
The woman of the dome of the Pelosis. Bring forth and give her the highest flying bird with the golden seats. Let the low dogs and workers pay in gold for her comforts and cheese. Into the heavens trans back and forth the great continent to visit in kind the land of foggy coastal insanity.

Quatrain IXV
The communities of man shall fester in hatred of the men who take the gold and spend it unwisely to the sacrifice of all giving themselves fancy bonuses. All to be poor as the poorest of his desires.


Quatrain IXVV
The new king will surround himself with non good ones. All of the suggested men will fall to the side, and shall bear the shame of incorrect disbursement of tax gold to the overseers.


Quatrain VIXV
A woman will emerge from the vast land where one could see Russia enriching herself with fancy loincloths. She will bring forth many children carrying children and make false promises, then be cast back to the cold dark corners of the land of Juneou.

 

[Lynnie]

Clever, Mango!! :funn:

 

[Geo]

He is right when he says condoms will not solve the problem of HIV transmission.

He is wrong when he says condoms will worsen the problem.

Can you point us to credible research that supports this? I thought that unless you cut off the tips of the condoms before you put them on (they actually do this in Africa) that use of condoms is far more effective in preventing HIV transmission compared to jumping without a parachute...

 

[LuciferSam]

The title of this thread "The Pope and the Condoms" reminds me of the Aesop fable "The Fox and the Grapes", and the plotlines are eerily similar. If you think about it the main character shows misguided contempt for a pleasurable item he is unable to make use of.

 

[hnooe]

The title of this thread "The Pope and the Condoms" reminds me of the Aesop fable "The Fox and the Grapes", and the plotlines are eerily similar. If you think about it the main character shows misguided contempt for a pleasurable item he is unable to make use of.

Very sad, but very true analogy. The Pope is a very well-meaning, kindy, head of the world's Catholics, but a bit out of touch with reality, and, at his core I feel, a very sanctimonious and self centered mortal.

 

[30A Skunkape]

Can you point us to credible research that supports this? I thought that unless you cut off the tips of the condoms before you put them on (they actually do this in Africa) that use of condoms is far more effective in preventing HIV transmission compared to jumping without a parachute...

I am not sure about credible research, but Washington DC can serve as a model:
D.C.'s health department ? which has come under criticism for its response to the problem ? has tried to tackle the HIV/AIDS epidemic by testing more young people, distributing 1.5 million free condoms and promoting needle-exchange programs.
HIV/AIDS: A Surging Epidemic in Washington, D.C. - TIME

 

[WhoDat1]

God Bless and keep the Pope.

 

[Geo]

I am not sure about credible research, but Washington DC can serve as a model:
D.C.'s health department — which has come under criticism for its response to the problem — has tried to tackle the HIV/AIDS epidemic by testing more young people, distributing 1.5 million free condoms and promoting needle-exchange programs.
HIV/AIDS: A Surging Epidemic in Washington, D.C. - TIME

Skunky, you agreeing with the pope's statement is like agreeing that seat belts aren't effective in preventing injury and death in autos. They, in fact, are. It just took a lot of education (and for this example- laws) to persuade folks to use them to be able to recognize their intended positive effect.

So let's set the record straight.

Our favorite Sowal MD would agree that condoms are effective in preventing HIV transmission but that it doesn't work to simply make free condoms available to people (because they might not use them or use them properly). Yes?

So back to the dope. Oh sorry- typo. I mean- pope.

If he was truly christ-like he wouldn't be lobbying against tiny pieces of latex while people are dying. In my eyes, he has blood on his hands. This will sound harsh to followers but I don't care.

The pope should be using his standing in the world to lobby for condoms along with funding for education programs to help ensure they are used properly- this will save lives. (WWJD?)

I love that he says that condoms don't work but yet he preaches abstinence.