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GoodWitch58

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/opinion/11friedman.html?_r=1

I don't always agree with Tom Friedman; in fact, I often disagree with him. LOL.yet, he is a very bright man and has made quite a contribution IMO.Just last night I was thinking about this very idea. It is an eloquent thought IMO.
From the Column:
..."All that said, I hope Mr. Obama will take this instinct a step further when he travels to Oslo on Dec. 10 for the peace prize ceremony. Here is the speech I hope he will give:

?Let me begin by thanking the Nobel committee for awarding me this prize, the highest award to which any statesman can aspire. As I said on the day it was announced, ?I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who?ve been honored by this prize.? Therefore, upon reflection, I cannot accept this award on my behalf at all.

?But I will accept it on behalf of the most important peacekeepers in the world for the last century ? the men and women of the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/opinion/11friedman.html?_r=1

I don't always agree with Tom Friedman; in fact, I often disagree with him. LOL.yet, he is a very bright man and has made quite a contribution IMO.Just last night I was thinking about this very idea. It is an eloquent thought IMO.
From the Column:
..."All that said, I hope Mr. Obama will take this instinct a step further when he travels to Oslo on Dec. 10 for the peace prize ceremony. Here is the speech I hope he will give:

“Let me begin by thanking the Nobel committee for awarding me this prize, the highest award to which any statesman can aspire. As I said on the day it was announced, ‘I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who’ve been honored by this prize.’ Therefore, upon reflection, I cannot accept this award on my behalf at all.

“But I will accept it on behalf of the most important peacekeepers in the world for the last century — the men and women of the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.


I like it a lot. it sounds very familiar. oh.. but of course! I have a personal :D letter I received by email on Oct 9 from Mr. President... it just so happens that I have it saved forever, I mean still in my inbox so I shall share it with my friends here. I'm sure he won't mind.

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]Teresa --

This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama

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GoodWitch58

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I like it a lot. it sounds very familiar. oh.. but of course! I have a personal :D letter I received by email on Oct 9 from my pal Barry (you may know him as Barack Obama)... it just so happens that I still have it in my inbox so I shall share it with my friends here. I'm sure he won't mind.

Lol. Yes, I have mine too...and a wonderful letter it is. Thanks for posting.:clap:
 

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They made it to make a political point. If they had evaluated all of the candidates honestly based on achievment, it would have gone to someone else.

How could a peace prize not be political, and who are you to tell the Nobel committee how to base their decision? Who brainwashed you into thinking all awards should be based on pure objectivity, as if such a thing exists in the real world, which apparently you don't seem to be a part of. An award like this could be based on achievement , but clearly it is intended to endorse an ideology as well. What on earth are you thinking? Hate to break it to you, but the world doesn't revolve around you, thank goodness.
 
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30ashopper

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you can wash all you want with the libertarian soap, but you're still a republican. i enjoyed your affirmative action comment. was that a slip or did you think it would be funny?

I wouldn't be offended by either. FTR, I enjoyed my affirmative action comment as well, it hit home. FYI you can play your race card all you want - I won't be surprised, it's your 'easy out'.
 
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30ashopper

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i'll bet you a bottle of bad wine that you you pulled the lever for mccain and that money hound wackjob palin when it came time to vote. who was the libertarian candidate? bob barr and fox news sociopath wayne root?? no way! right?

I voted for whom I felt was best able to lead this country. You voted for.. whoever was promising you the most free stuff?
 

30ashopper

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How could a peace prize not be political, and who are you to tell the Nobel committee how to base their decision? Who brainwashed you into thinking all awards should be based on pure objectivity, as if such a thing exists in the real world, which apparently you don't seem to be a part of. An award like this could be based on achievement , but clearly it is intended to endorse an ideology as well. What on earth are you thinking? Hate to break it to you, but the world doesn't revolve around you, thank goodness.

You make a good point. A number of the 'losers' were political dissenters. Politics 'proper' do play an important role. Whether it involves recognizing someone who forces change, or recognizing someone who simply symbolizes it. Take your pick I guess. The committee obviously did.
 
Thanks, Tootsie. I, too, wish people would choose to be open minded about this, and accept that it is a positive gesture and a huge honor...and be gracious about it.

Can't we all realize that all Americans, in fact, the entire world... can benefit from it, if we will just stop the internal bickering. What is so important that we are allowing everything to divide us? To cheer when our country loses the Olympic bid, and now to ridicule the Nobel Peace Prize. What are we thinking?

I often think how much could be accomplished if the negative energy that is sent forth over the airwaves 24 7 was turned, instead, into positive energy to bring peace, feed hungry people, especially children, educate those who can not read, heal those who are sick and dying...stop the wars, help people save their homes...stop domestic violence and eliminate drug use and sales that result in innocent children being burned almost to death in a meth fire...help elderly people who are sick and frightened, save the beaches from the oil rigs, and the rest of the environment from the oil cartels...

I just saw an interview with some of the marines and army troops who survived that horrific attack a couple of days ago; eight of them died and the insurgents overran their lonely outpost...they were surrounded, the young soldier said, 360 degrees...and they had wounded they could not evacuate.

In the middle of the fire fight, they started giving blood to the wounded to keep them alive--Think about that image: you are on the side of a frigidly cold mountain, gun fire is coming at you from every direction; your buddies are dying on both sides of you; and there is no way for help to reach you--you are firing a weapon with one hand, while your blood drips into an IV that is hooked up to another team mate who is about to die. It is an image that will keep me awake tonight--and I wish it would keep a lot of people awake; maybe then, people would be provoked into doing something positive to make a difference that really matters.

I think we should all be ashamed to know how we carp at one another as we sit here safely in our houses arguing about Rush or Keith's latest escapade, while some 23 year olds are dying trying to hold outposts in those unforgiving mountains of Afghanistan and the deserts of Iraq...and the rest of them are giving the wounded their blood to try and keep them alive until the medivac choppers can get to them...and the brave pilots of those choppers are taking greater and greater risks to reach them before they are killed. And when they finally get them to a field hospital, the doctors and nurses are so exhausted from combat that they operate on auto pilot--it's the only way they can survive what they see every day.

We need all the positiveness we can find in this world and when the the Nobel Committee offered us a gift yesterday by honoring the President the American people elected; what do so many of us do? Make light of it, say it's undeserved, ridicule President Obama and the Nobel Committee..FTLOG, who are we to question the Nobel Committee? The behavior is disturbing and sad IMO, and as you said, so many will never really learn what it all means.

We have our priorities all out of whack and we need to wake up and realize that we need to work together.
Sometimes lately, I think the terrorists have already won--they killed many people on 9-11...and for awhile, we were all Americans. But now, it seems that even if they did not kill us all that day--we have let all the things that happened since slowly eat away at our sense of country and humanity...our very sense of what it means to be an American...instead, we are labeling each other in a derogatory way simply because we have a difference of opinion about politics!

Those young men on that mountainside didn't ask each other are you a conservative or a liberal, they did not care if one is black and another white or brown, they have no idea what some insanely ridiculous talk show host said today...they were too busy trying to stay alive, following orders, fighting for America-- for all of us--and mostly for each other, because that's all they really have.

They all deserve more than what we are offering them right now--and so do the people who are dying from lack of health care because they do not have the money to pay for the insurance.

These are the important things I believe--and I wonder what it will take for us to realize how much better we could all be if we took a different approach to a lot of these issues, and exhibited some compassion and love for everyone.


Thank you goodwitch for saying things I can't because I get too emotional.

My only son, father of 3 beautiful children , joined the military for all the right reasons: pride in his country and a sense of responsibility to protect it. He has been to the desert 3 times and is now deployed for a year in Korea.
My family has it all on the line, so when "patriots" post hateful statements about this president it takes all I can do to use Option 3.
If they have a loved one defending their right to spit on POTUS and yell crass lowbrow epithets, I'll listen and empathize. Otherwise, I'll try not to reply.

I will say this: My son, and most of his fellow soldiers, feel that this president gives the US dignity and respect. They are proud to serve him.
He proves that the American Dream really exists. You can come from humble beginnings, work hard, and become President of the most wonderful country in the world.

You really are a good witch.
 
I wouldn't be offended by either. FTR, I enjoyed my affirmative action comment as well, it hit home. FYI you can play your race card all you want - I won't be surprised, it's your 'easy out'.


YOU played the race card! Your "affirmative action" skanky little smear remark is about race, do you get that? You started it and now you are saying someone ELSE did it? And here's the worst part. It wasn't even and original observation. Why don't you quote your source?
 

Jdarg

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I am both so happy and proud of our president getting this honor, and dismayed at the same time by the almost visceral reaction to it by some on and outside of this board.

I guess people find their peace in different ways.
 
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