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scooterbug44

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This was my favorite line: "Illegal immigrants are not eligible for in-state tuition." :roll:

This seems pretty silly and a lot of fuss about nothing - of more than 310,000 students there are only 501 whose status is unclear. So this involves about 1/10 of 1% of the total student body - many of whom contribute to the 501 number because they didn't turn in the right forms, but are US citizens.

Can Georgia lawmakers really not find a better use of their time and taxpayers' resources?
 

Geo

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I don't want nunna them
damn illegals taking my job or my kid's seat at the college. America wasn't built by no forun immigrants.

Restore honor. Can't wait til november to vote out the Kenyan and get us back in track.

Don't give me no healthcare.

Liberals don't tread on me. These
colors don't run.

I say to the liberals, when's the last time you went to Iraq or Afghanisan and fought for freedom? Until then, shut yer commie pie holes or deal with the shotgun of the uprising.

God bless America.
 

hkem1

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This was my favorite line: "Illegal immigrants are not eligible for in-state tuition." :roll:

I'm not quite sure what you meant by that and I don't think it is a totally erroneous idea to give illegal immigrants instate tuition. But, as someone who is currently applying to college it seems odd to me that my family would have to pay 45,000/year for me to go to UC-Berkeley, but an illegal immigrant would only have to pay 10,000/year.

Can Georgia lawmakers really not find a better use of their time and taxpayers' resources?

I don't know what it's like in Georgia, but here in Texas, a lot of the hot-button issues the legislature deal with are about Higher Education. So I would answer that question with a "no".
 

hkem1

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Actually tuition just went up again I should have said 50,000 for me and 10,000 for an illegal immigrant.
 
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scooterbug44

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You really think legislators should be focusing time and money on an issue that does not affect 99.9% of the students?

Sorry, but if you can't get into Georgia Perimeter College, it isn't because droves of illegal aliens took the available places. It means you couldn't meet the high academic standards of an institution that accepts a D grade for transfer credits. :roll:
 

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Seems like this would act as a good deterent for the state. Let some other state deal with providing these folks with public services.
 

scooterbug44

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What exactly is the deterrant? All this dumbarse proposal says is that IF they run out of room, the college may deny admittance to illegals to make room.

Seriously, it is a couple students per college and that is not just the illegals, it's the students who don't have a certain form turned in yet, and so could POSSIBLY be illegal ......... or could be that rarity of a college student who hasn't turned in a piece of paperwork. :sarc:

I am not saying that I think illegal aliens should be attending college, just that it is a ridiculous and trivial thing for lawmakers to be spending time and money on.
 

hkem1

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Sorry, but if you can't get into Georgia Perimeter College, it isn't because droves of illegal aliens took the available places. It means you couldn't meet the high academic standards of an institution that accepts a D grade for transfer credits. :roll:

"We find ourselves in debate over a very, very insignificant number of students," said Regent Jim Jolly, who chairs the committee. "But we recognize this is not an insignificant issue. It is a political and emotional issue and I think we have made good progress in addressing the concerns out there."

I think this fix is a compromise between two parties who want different things. Some people want no immigrants in the schools because it takes up a small amount of spots and the other side wants them in the schools as long as they don't take spots that would have gone to qualified citizens.

You say it is an insignificant amount of students, but if someone is the parent of one of the 501 American citizens who would have gotten that spot at the taxpayer funded university that went to an illegal immigrant, it's a significant issue for that person.

State universities are a very emotional issue for a lot of people, especially parents. I am probably going to get $100,000 scholarship offer ( OOS tuition waiver plus $10,000 a year) from The University of South Carolina.

Is that fair for a South Carolina citizen to not be able to afford to go to their state university while they're funding my education, even though I have never spent a day of my life in the state?

According to the South Carolina legislature, it is fair because I add a strong dynamic to the campus community and may in the future contribute to the state of South Carolina. Here in Texas there is EXTREMELY limited (as in none) merit scholarship for out of state students, that's because the citizens fight hard enough against it.

I would imagine that there are a lot of students who were denied from either UGA or Georgia Tech who believe illegal immigrants hurt their chances. I think their outrage makes it more than worthy for their state legislators that they elect to look into the issue and decide what is best for the state, just as South Carolina and Texas do.
 
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Bob

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I think this fix is a compromise between two parties who want different things. Some people want no immigrants in the schools because it takes up a small amount of spots and the other side wants them in the schools as long as they don't take spots that would have gone to qualified citizens.

You say it is an insignificant amount of students, but if someone is the parent of one of the 501 American citizens who would have gotten that spot at the taxpayer funded university that went to an illegal immigrant, it's a significant issue for that person.

State universities are a very emotional issue for a lot of people, especially parents. I am probably going to get $100,000 scholarship offer ( OOS tuition waiver plus $10,000 a year) from The University of South Carolina.

Is that fair for a South Carolina citizen to not be able to afford to go to their state university while they're funding my education, even though I have never spent a day of my life in the state?

According to the South Carolina legislature, it is fair because I add a strong dynamic to the campus community and may in the future contribute to the state of South Carolina. Here in Texas there is EXTREMELY limited (as in none) merit scholarship for out of state students, that's because the citizens fight hard enough against it.

I would imagine that there are a lot of students who were denied from either UGA or Georgia Tech who believe illegal immigrants hurt their chances. I think their outrage makes it more than worthy for their state legislators that they elect to look into the issue and decide what is best for the state, just as South Carolina and Texas do.
when you grow up, your mind
may become an illegal immigrant to your culture. good luck.
 
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