Rick Perry to host an only-Christians-speak rally
- Thread starter Rita
- Start date
-
Trouble logging in? Send us a message with your username and/or email address for help.
- Status
"Disconnect" is the problem. Either close minded idealogies or religion serve this severing of our country because of "fear" of something. There is no room at the inn for anyone in mainstreet america (those that care more about the issues than being liberal or conservative). Those with rooms must first committ to one of two extremes. The rest of us are either bullied into submission or just shut out. When the middle of the oreo is gone what is going to hold it together...
It's like public displays of affection. We just sometimes think you guys should get a room, that's all. Then rock the pew for all I care. I won't come a knockin'. You have my word on that.
It isn't a liberal versus conservative issue. It's a "politicians don't belong in the pulpit" issue.
I live in a representative democracy, not a theocracy and I would like it to remain that way.
I live in a representative democracy, not a theocracy and I would like it to remain that way.
Religious "principles" will lead us to further division and possibly even more wars. What is your principles regarding Mormons? What is your principles regarding the Church of Christ? What is your principle regarding Muslims? Now how about radical muslims? You are looking for those dedicated conservative types right? This debate does not have to go there if we can just keep religion out of politics and focus on the issues that are most important to this country at the moment.
.
This guy, Mike Bickle, founder of the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer (IHOP), officially endorses Governor Perry's prayer and fasting rally. (Yep, I always thought there was something shady about Oprah. This kind of preaching is just what I want to see to help pull this nation together.)..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFcFldh8lo&feature=player_embedded
.
This guy, Mike Bickle, founder of the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer (IHOP), officially endorses Governor Perry's prayer and fasting rally. (Yep, I always thought there was something shady about Oprah. This kind of preaching is just what I want to see to help pull this nation together.)..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFcFldh8lo&feature=player_embedded
.
Last edited:
Our Founding Fathers were smart enough to realize that religion with all of its accompanying squabbles and schisms had no place in our government.
Many of our colonies were founded and populated by people fleeing religious persecution in Europe, so they wanted religious freedom explicitly spelled out before they would ratify our Constitution.
Our laws and tolerance are what unite and govern us. Our religious beliefs and fears are what divide us.
Many of our colonies were founded and populated by people fleeing religious persecution in Europe, so they wanted religious freedom explicitly spelled out before they would ratify our Constitution.
Our laws and tolerance are what unite and govern us. Our religious beliefs and fears are what divide us.
I've never known anyone to think or say anything like this. Who are you talking about?
My only thought about this issue is that any governor has a great responsibility to all of the people. His religion is none of my concern. Or his sexuality for that matter. Or any of his private life. In my opinion, his leadership skills are definitely called into question when he takes religion and uses it for his own gain. Pretty pitiful. why else would he go so public with such a private thing such as religion? I can't see any motive other than personal gain... but doesn't he realize that there are many of his constituents who will not be at all impressed with his religious based choices and actions? very short sighted and misguided choices. Someone needs to help the poor guy.
Last edited:
The founding fathers had no desire for religion to be involved in the Federal government. However, they were ok with the STATES establishing religions. In fact the famous letter from 1802 written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, from which is derived the doctrine of separation of church and state, was a response to a letter from the baptists in Danbury Connecticut complaining about the state religion of that state: Congregationalists. Jefferson's response did not say the state could not establish a religion, only that the Federal government could not. Many states had official religions well into the 19th century.
Do I want to go back to that? NO. But to say that the founding fathers were against religions having a role in government is only partially true as they had no issue with the states establishing religions.
So if I'm to believe you, which I don't, the states have the power to ignore the constitution and set up theocratic facist regimes. Wrap that cross in the confederate flag why don't you.
- Status