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Danny Glidewell

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Mar 26, 2008
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Glendale
Bob Wells is right on target, we need to start enforcing the law because that is the right thing to do. Hopefully it is not too late and some of these issues will work themselves out. If it is too late then Bob Hudson is right on target, the courts will decide who is right.
 

Bob Hudson

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May 10, 2008
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Santa Rosa Beach
And local laws cannot conflict with state law.

Danny I personally believe the changes to the Beach Activities Ordinance that dealth with removing chains and fences was sustainable when challenged.

I believe the removal of monopole boundary markers will be overturned by the courts until such time as the county proves customary use.

The drumbeat of those who "sing songs" and claim the "sand is mine" have drawn a line in the sand by galvanizing both sides of the issue.

Add a lack of enforcement by law enforcement and you have the perfect "legal storm" with both sides ready to seek a legal ruling.

Everyone has "lawyered up" on both sides and I know personally that suits will be filed and a injunction will be requested while the issue is litigated.

No one was willing to seek a solution agreeable to both sides of the issues.
 

Danny Glidewell

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Mar 26, 2008
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Glendale
The thing is that when you go all in and force a ruling, you better win because either side will be in a much worse position if they lose. If customary use loses then it could wreck our economy and if the property owners lose then it is basically the wild, wild west on the white sand and they will have little say in what happens. Either way there will be bitterness and harsh words said on both sides and the community will take years to heal. Too bad.
 

lazin&drinkin

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Apr 13, 2010
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A couple of observations. First, the county is paying Theriaque $425 an hour as I recall, not a mere 375.

Second, Danny’s suggestion that a loss by the county on the issue of customary use could wreck our economy is speculative, as evidenced by his choice of the word could. More than a few others have declared that it would, not could, wreck the local economy. Funny thing that tourism, in case nobody has noticed, has exploded here despite there being no customary use ordinance. Facts are indeed funny things. Somehow, in distinct contradiction of those declarations and speculations, the local economy continues to prosper.

It is in fact the continued explosion in the numbers of tourists that has provoked our present state of affairs and this battle over private property rights. Should the county grandees succeed in increasing the number of tourists coming here annually by a couple of million as they hope to do, it will be that explosion that wrecks many parts of the local economy. As Yogi famously said, “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

I was running some errands in my car Tuesday of this week. 45 minutes to go 3 miles in Miramar Beach on the west-bound leg. Ended up on the return trip at Skippers fish store in the old Winn Dixie shopping center now dominated by Chik Fil A. Traffic on Scenic 98 was backed up at least a quarter mile back to the west, and was backed up to Emerald Coast Parkway for those of us heading west. I was the only car parked in front of Skippers and the other businesses adjacent, and Iwas the only customer in Skippers for a while before one the came in briefly. Cars were backed up in both lanes of Chik Fil A, and cars were backed up in the local cut through from Emerald Coast to Scenic 98 from in front of CVS all the way to Scenic 98. Absolute gridlock.

And what impact do you suppose these hordes in cars choking our streets and parking lots are having on the businesses like Skippers et al that can’t be easily accessed any more? How do you suppose the construction period of widening Emerald Coast and Scenic 98 and Poinciana will affect those businesses’ bottom lines? You better be careful what you wish for, especially if you’re not as likely as Dave Rauschkolb and some other tourist-related business owners, developers, realtors, lawyers and politicians to quickly make enough money to immunize yourself against the situation being created.

There are two physical forces of nature — sex and money. When there is enough money is at stake, someone is about to get screwed. Easy enough to figure out who gets the money and who gets the shaft.

And Danny sums it up accurately. Whichever side wins, the bitterness will persist, and the county at large will take years to heal, if ever it does. And all for power and money. Some things just never change. Greed remains a deadly sin.
 

Danny Glidewell

Beach Fanatic
Mar 26, 2008
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Glendale
People continue to blame the TDC for the current situation when those folks have only done what they are told to do and they have done the job well, which is unusual for government. Now we have too many visitors for the infrastructure we have. The remedy is to shift gears and begin to build the needed roadways, storm water handlers, water, sewage, schools and most of all parking and beach accesses. Each of those items that can be provided with bed tax dollars should be built using those assets and build the rest with regular tax revenues. Instead of raising taxes cut advertising temporarily to pay for the TDC items and fully fund the TIFF to fund those items not funded by utilities and the school district. Most of all, start TODAY.
 

FactorFiction

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Feb 18, 2016
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They must produce a "Yearly"Survey if they have it ( doubtful)and your north of the southern boundary just move on...If they don't tell them and Barney Fyffe your ok....
I don't recall seeing in writing that it requires an annual survey, although you have mentioned it a number of times. Please share the part of the SOP or other documentation that requires the survey to be done annually. Thank you.
 
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