Another Complaint Against The Sheriff

Right on the money...

Sweet Gal,

I understand totally what your saying about needing a change in WCSO. So after talking to each candidate the past 2-3 months along with other deputies, I am going to vote for Marshal Adkinson this August. He's going to get my vote for these reasons....1) He's extremely qualified 2) He treats people and his employees very professionally 3) He's a family man and 4) Just look at the improvement he's done with the DFSPD. Oh also, I met Josh Sconiers at one of the Young Republican's meetings a while back when he was running for sheriff. This young man has got a great head on his shoulders and I respect his opinion and as person ever since that night, So if Josh is backing Marshal Adkinson then my family will also get his vote.

Very Informed

I think she requested the transfer. If it is who I think it is. The question should be, why was she transferred from road patrol to investigator in the first place? A position she didn't want.

You are very informed and should be commended for keeping up with the ins and outs of our SO.

As I understand it, there was an "issue" with a complaint made and then the officer did not want to cooperate with the follow up. They were then appointed to Investigations... makes a lot of sense right? This is how people are promoted/demoted at the SO. No rhyme, no reason.

I am surprised that the two dispatchers are not captains by now. At least the one gets to drive the cool sports car.

You are very informed and should be commended for keeping up with the ins and outs of our SO.

As I understand it, there was an "issue" with a complaint made and then the officer did not want to cooperate with the follow up. They were then appointed to Investigations... makes a lot of sense right? This is how people are promoted/demoted at the SO. No rhyme, no reason.

I am surprised that the two dispatchers are not captains by now. At least the one gets to drive the cool sports car.

She has good sources.

She has good sources.

Booya,
I guess that you and I are just on different ends of the voting world. I have listen to the others and I think that Cooper did a good job the other night at the High School. He too worked under Quinn as to my understanding, so does that mean that he would bring back the "good ol boy" He has been out of law enforcement for years working at Sandestin security. Does this mean that he is not quip to run the deparment if he is elected? As I understand and have been personally told by Mr. Adkinson, the folks that work at the P.D. now worked there when he was elected chief. I am sure that some will come, and others will stay. That will be up to him. I personally think he has done a good job, and I think he will do a good job running this county. Change will not happen over night, but it needs to happen. I have not put down any other person running, except Wise and Macon, simply because they seemed lost the other night when they were on the stage. I wish whomever you are voting for the best of luck. Either way we need new leadership in our S.O.

My dear, I don't know who you received your information from, but very few of those employed by the DFS police when Mr. Adkinson took over are still there. Most of those currently employed are individuals who left the sheriff's office for one reason or the other.

SweetGal,
Don't you wonder what Mr. Atkinson's next jump will be?? He has not shown any loyalty to the city that voted him into his position; will he show loyalty to our county? And as Idlewind said, many DFS PD people USED to be employed at WCSO?? Will they be leaving DFS PD as well if Mr. Atkinson happens to win??

Works both ways - several officers jumped to the WCSO from the DFSPD.when Mike took over, and two in particular had issues with Mike. I like Mike, but I worry for them...

Works both ways - several officers jumped to the WCSO from the DFSPD.when Mike took over, and two in particular had issues with Mike. I like Mike, but I worry for them...

I worry about ALL of our employees. These men and women work for the taxpayers and have been mistreated by the current administration. I would love to know the plans each candidate has for the current employees and whom they plan to bring into the office with them. Remember, with the current financing structure for county government it is unlikely for there to be any funds available to creat new positions. Threfore, to bring a new employee in requires one to depart, probably by termination. That is why each of us must ask for detailed answers to these types of questions.

stranger things have happened

I predict that if adkinson gets elected sheriff he will take Bill Chapman with him as #2. Adkinson will pave the way for scomiers to take over as chief.

Certification ???

I predict that if adkinson gets elected sheriff he will take Bill Chapman with him as #2. Adkinson will pave the way for scomiers to take over as chief.

Is Chapman the same Chapman who's Florida State Law Enfocement Certification was in question a few years back?

As I can recall, please correct..., he did not have current active standards when he went to work for the old DFS Chief. A whistle blower dispatcher told officials she was asked to alter, forge, misrepresent, the document so that Chapman would be active with the FDLE Training Data Base. I remember an agent with FDLE, Carl Causey (sp?) was also involved (please correct as well if not true). Is this the same guy or is there another Chapman?

Is Sconiers supporting Adkinson?

thats the Chap, man.

Yes. It was never an issue as to any involvment he had in the debacle. As far as I know it was all the chiefs doings. other wise I feel fdal would have also taken action on Chapman. I was told Chapman had a reputation of being the buffer between quinnie and the deputies back then.

Yes. It was never an issue as to any involvment he had in the debacle. As far as I know it was all the chiefs doings. other wise I feel fdal would have also taken action on Chapman. I was told Chapman had a reputation of being the buffer between quinnie and the deputies back then.

From what I understand from those close to the situation back then "buffer" is not the term I would use. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

The Truth

I have read all the comments since I posted this thread a while back and I also understand everyone's point of view and everyone has a right to their own opinion. I personally have contact with several deputies these days and a couple of "high brass" in the current administration. They all agree that everyone is ready for a change in the sheriff's office and want a new sheriff who can put Walton County on the map for outstanding law enforcement, not on the map as a place where you can get fired if you get pregnant....better yet be promoted to Lt. from a maintenance man. The morale is down and keeps going down these days. Someone asked earlier was Sconiers supporting Adkinson? He sure is and i don't blame him at all. Sconiers have spoken to all the other candidates and researched each of their qualifications, along with their future goals for WCSO. And he believes that Mike will make a positive change with the sheriff's office and make each and every deputy proud they work for Walton County Sheriff's Office. Like i said in an earlier post, come August I'll cast my vote for Mike Adkinson.

a job left incomplete

It still leaves a bad odor when mike said he'd be there for as long as the city wanted, then after a short while decides to bail. The residents of DeFuniak depended on him to stay a bit longer than he is willing to. What made him change his mind? Why go back on his word? He has much left to do. Why leave so much undone? And for sconiers, please. It wreaks worst of all. IF mike is elected that will leave a very short time to find a suitable replacement. If he takes chapman with him, and he should (he needs the votes chapman can get him) sconiers will probably be the only 'so called" reasonable choice forcing the city to accept him. If I had a sweet deal like that I'd support mike too, but my conscience would stop me. And as far as the "list of accomplishments" mike claims on his website......heres a news flash.......98% of them are DICTATED STEP BY STEP AND MANDATED by the Florida Accreditation Commission to get standards. Why he would try to mislead anyone into thinking they were his ideas and accomplishments is a deliberate twist of facts. Its giant leap backwards to the old days. I thought Walton County grew past that. Make your own choice to whom you support. But please oh please make an educated choice. Dont take anyone by their word. Verify and validate, then maybe a good educated decision can be reached.

Is Chapman the same Chapman who's Florida State Law Enfocement Certification was in question a few years back?

As I can recall, please correct..., he did not have current active standards when he went to work for the old DFS Chief. A whistle blower dispatcher told officials she was asked to alter, forge, misrepresent, the document so that Chapman would be active with the FDLE Training Data Base. I remember an agent with FDLE, Carl Causey (sp?) was also involved (please correct as well if not true). Is this the same guy or is there another Chapman?

Is Sconiers supporting Adkinson?

It was Carl Woodall that was involved not Carl Causey. Woodall worked out of the panama city office and he wasn't a special agent.

Fdle investigated the complaint and determined that Bill Chapman had not done anything wrong

Carl woodall was let go after this to my knowledge and Carl Causey is still a special agent in the Pensacola office

knowledge

It was Carl Woodall that was involved not Carl Causey. Woodall worked out of the panama city office and he wasn't a special agent.

Fdle investigated the complaint and determined that Bill Chapman had not done anything wrong

Carl woodall was let go after this to my knowledge and Carl Causey is still a special agent in the Pensacola office

Ok, thanks. I heard "Carl", not sure the last name. You mean to tell me that Chapman did not know his certification was expired???? Was he not a supervisor at one time? Knowledge?

Ok, thanks. I heard "Carl", not sure the last name. You mean to tell me that Chapman did not know his certification was expired???? Was he not a supervisor at one time? Knowledge?

Didn't say that he didn't know, just know that FDLE did investigate the incident and determined that Chapman had not done anything wrong

if he knew, then he was involved:

Didn't say that he didn't know, just know that FDLE did investigate the incident and determined that Chapman had not done anything wrong

Actually FDLE DID say he did'nt know when they said he did nothing wrong.

But hey, nice word play.

If Chapman knew of the wrong doing he would've been charged with something. And most probably the same charge as ray.

It still leaves a bad odor when mike said he'd be there for as long as the city wanted, then after a short while decides to bail. The residents of DeFuniak depended on him to stay a bit longer than he is willing to. What made him change his mind? Why go back on his word? He has much left to do. Why leave so much undone? And for sconiers, please. It wreaks worst of all. IF mike is elected that will leave a very short time to find a suitable replacement. If he takes chapman with him, and he should (he needs the votes chapman can get him) sconiers will probably be the only 'so called" reasonable choice forcing the city to accept him. If I had a sweet deal like that I'd support mike too, but my conscience would stop me. And as far as the "list of accomplishments" mike claims on his website......heres a news flash.......98% of them are DICTATED STEP BY STEP AND MANDATED by the Florida Accreditation Commission to get standards. Why he would try to mislead anyone into thinking they were his ideas and accomplishments is a deliberate twist of facts. Its giant leap backwards to the old days. I thought Walton County grew past that. Make your own choice to whom you support. But please oh please make an educated choice. Dont take anyone by their word. Verify and validate, then maybe a good educated decision can be reached.

Just because Mike get Sheriff (CROSSING FINGER,EYES, AND TOES) doesnt mean he will turn his back on the P.D. Just because the current administration doesnt work with the P.D. doesnt mean that Mike wont. He has done a great job on turning that place around. Some of the guys that currently work there were fired from the S.O as I understand it, and choose to work for the P.D. The good ol boy that you guys claim will come back with Mike such as Chapman and all that bunch already worked there when he was elected to do a job. The residence of Defuniak, are still residence of Walton County. We all depend and need a good Sheriff as well. I doubt very seriously the city will every be forced to except anyone into a Chief's position. If Chapman comes back he will likely be the next Chief, not Josh. I too have been doing some research on this election and the S.O. PD etc. Mike Adkinson is highly qualified to run this county, as he did with the city. He has my vote. Good luck to everyone running.

I have read all the comments since I posted this thread a while back and I also understand everyone's point of view and everyone has a right to their own opinion. I personally have contact with several deputies these days and a couple of "high brass" in the current administration. They all agree that everyone is ready for a change in the sheriff's office and want a new sheriff who can put Walton County on the map for outstanding law enforcement, not on the map as a place where you can get fired if you get pregnant....better yet be promoted to Lt. from a maintenance man. The morale is down and keeps going down these days. Someone asked earlier was Sconiers supporting Adkinson? He sure is and i don't blame him at all. Sconiers have spoken to all the other candidates and researched each of their qualifications, along with their future goals for WCSO. And he believes that Mike will make a positive change with the sheriff's office and make each and every deputy proud they work for Walton County Sheriff's Office. Like i said in an earlier post, come August I'll cast my vote for Mike Adkinson.

Amen.........

Wow! After reading this thread hoping to get some insight about the area. I'm shocked to realize it's like a stereotype of a typical corrupt southern town from a movie! This oughta be interesting!

you forgot somethin'

Just because Mike get Sheriff (CROSSING FINGER,EYES, AND TOES) doesnt mean he will turn his back on the P.D. Just because the current administration doesnt work with the P.D. doesnt mean that Mike wont. He has done a great job on turning that place around. Some of the guys that currently work there were fired from the S.O as I understand it, and choose to work for the P.D. The good ol boy that you guys claim will come back with Mike such as Chapman and all that bunch already worked there when he was elected to do a job. The residence of Defuniak, are still residence of Walton County. We all depend and need a good Sheriff as well. I doubt very seriously the city will every be forced to except anyone into a Chief's position. If Chapman comes back he will likely be the next Chief, not Josh. I too have been doing some research on this election and the S.O. PD etc. Mike Adkinson is highly qualified to run this county, as he did with the city. He has my vote. Good luck to everyone running.

You claim to have done your homework? First of all Chapman IS back! But more importantly what about the misleading statement mike makes on his website telling people HE has brought about certain changes. The Florida Accreditation Commission mandates an average of up to 270 minimum standards that must be met to achieve accreditation for a police department. The standards required are handed to you in a booklet. Mike claims most of the improvements in the PD are his ideas. Thats wrong and very misleading. They are mandates made by the accreditation commission and not mikes ideas. And by the way, before he claims credit for getting the pd on the road to accreditation, it was mandated by the state of florida a few years back. its in florida statues if you care to do more homework. AND mike touts the title accreditation manager. Woo hoo! Its a two day course. Thats right 16 big hours. AND I can find no record of mike ever having managed a complete accreditation process. The average is two years! So he will leave that unfinished as well if elected. So please verify all that is here. Then tell me you still trust this man to tell you the truth and represent the most powerful agency in the county.! Or did he Mis-speak like hillary?

I read it and verified it, very nice. thanks!

as far as the "list of accomplishments" mike claims on his website......heres a news flash.......98% of them are DICTATED STEP BY STEP AND MANDATED by the Florida Accreditation Commission to get standards. Why he would try to mislead anyone into thinking they were his ideas and accomplishments is a deliberate twist of facts. Its giant leap backwards to the old days. I thought Walton County grew past that. Make your own choice to whom you support. But please oh please make an educated choice. Dont take anyone by their word. Verify and validate, then maybe a good educated decision can be reached.

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he does lead you to believe the ideas were his. The accreditation website is very clear. its all there to see. Thanks

Wow! After reading this thread hoping to get some insight about the area. I'm shocked to realize it's like a stereotype of a typical corrupt southern town from a movie! This oughta be interesting!

Yeah, it's just like Roadhouse. Just the other day I was in the hardware store and the local version of "Brad Wesley" came in and busted up the place and threatened the owner "Blue" if he did not come up with the civic improvement money. I got a razor installed in my boot, and for added protection I learned how to rip a guys heart out (and look good doing it). Shocked! Shocked I say! Is writing "stereotype of a typical" redundant?

Yeah, it's just like Roadhouse. Just the other day I was in the hardware store and the local version of "Brad Wesley" came in and busted up the place and threatened the owner "Blue" if he did not come up with the civic improvement money. I got a razor installed in my boot, and for added protection I learned how to rip a guys heart out (and look good doing it). Shocked! Shocked I say! Is writing "stereotype of a typical" redundant?

"I didn't see nuthing. A bear fell on me."