Any truth to the rumor?

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  1. John G

    John G Beach Fanatic

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    The quite title option is a good move on their part. Those homeowners in that area had to deal with all sorts of idiots parking on their driveways, in their streets (blocking the Stop Sign there) and all over.

    Additionally, they probably didn't care much for the Free Shuttle from a development on 393 invading their once quiet neighborhood (neither would I) and busing in folks to that beach.

    Trash containers were always overflowing and the place became a circus.

    Perhaps if there had been some Enforcement of the parking (not just having the blonde Posse' lady putting a 48 hour warning sticker on cars) this would not have escalated to this.

    I like that other property owners are taking steps to protect their private property.

    The County should have been buying up parcels of land with access a long time ago. Epic Fail on the BCC's fault over the years.
     
  2. miznotebook

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    Not sure about past years, but the county approved a contract just last month to purchase some beachfront property in Inlet Beach with TDC funds for public use. They are also looking at a couple of other beachfront parcels in another area. The problem I have heard is that when it becomes known that the county/TDC are looking at buying a beachfront parcel, someone in the neighborhood steps up and buys it first to keep the county from getting it.
     
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  3. Rainlr

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  4. Rainlr

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    I can understand beachfront properties’ concern but the mayhem you describe did not happen in the Beach Highland’s area. The no parking signs have been effective, on holidays the county had a deputy keeping order. As far as shuttles I never personally witnessed it but it seems a compromise could be worked out instead of closing the decades old public accesses to whole neighborhoods.
     
  5. John G

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    The parking WAS a problem, until the huge signs were installed.

    The shuttle ran from the Subdivision on 393 to Blue Mtn., to this access. I saw it each weekend as it would stop (with no one riding it BTW).

    Followed it back on its route and spoke with driver at Gulf Place. This was one of the stops.

    Perhaps, no more...
     
  6. ASH

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    A bus stop in the middle of that tiny neighborhood could be problematic. How was that location ever chosen? Seems like there are far better choices, better access, more space, and public bathrooms. Doesn't make sense.
     
  7. Rainlr

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    I think it would be easy to have the shuttle’s route restricted to improved county accesses or state parks only.
     
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  8. soappedaler

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    Copy and share this to your contacts

    Let’s keep our right to use the beach
    Contact the Commissioners-

    Beach front property owners at Beach Highlands have claimed title to the beach and beach accesses at the Stallworth Walkover and Bullard/Highland access through a quiet title. As a result of this, or similar actions, South Walton Beaches are becoming closed to the public.
    Walton County must protect the public’s right to use the beach through an ordinance declaring Customary Use of the beach and beach access by the public. Once an ordinance is in place the public will be allowed use of the beach, no matter who has title. It will be up to the property owners to challenge the county ordinance.
    Contact ALL of the county commissioners and tell them to move forward with writing and adopting a Customary Use ordinance for the beach and beach accesses of Walton County.
    Walton County Commissioners:
    William "Bill" Chapman (R), District 1 Commissioner
    District Office:
    Office (850) 835-4860
    chabill@co.walton.fl.us

    Cecilia Jones (R), District 2 CommissionerDistrict Office:
    Office (850) 892-4020
    joncecilia@co.walton.fl.us
    Bill Imfeld (R), District 3 CommissionerDistrict Office:
    Office (850) 892-8474
    imfbill@co.walton.fl.us
    Sara Comander (R), District 4 Commissioner
    District Office:
    Office (850) 835-4834
    comsara@co.walton.fl.us

    Cindy Meadows(R), District 5 Commissioner
    District Office:
    Office (850) 231-2978
    meacindy@co.walton.fl.us
     
  9. Matt J

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    The parking was a problem because owners in that neighborhood don't understand what a public right of way is. They put barriers on public land to prevent legitimate street parking. They have intimidated the traffic study engineers, public works and even Chelco to keep ROW's obstructed. These people are worse than socialists or communists in there greed to STEAL from the public.

    Now they'll tell you that they have suffered vandalism, threats and violence and a host of other unsubstantiated claims. Countless times they have outright lied at BCC meetings and attempted fraud to restrict access to Public roads and lands. Regarding their claims of vandalism and threatening beach goers there is not 1 arrest or even police report to back up any one of their claims.
     
  10. sunny850

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    Last Saturday night, I had a bonfire at the Dune Allen west neighborhood access to celebrate my sons 17th birthday and a gulf front homeowner called the police who arrived within 5 minutes of our fire being lit. We had a permit, the proper container, and wood. There was no alcohol, a few chairs, a radio and about 25-30 people standing around the fire. The tide was out so we set up right by the waters edge, as far from the gulf front houses as possible. We chose this access because it is the closest one to our house. The homeowner told the police we were trespassing on private property,which was not true as we went straight down from the steps at the access, which is what the permit allows. The officer even walked with me toward the nearest house and half way there, agreed he couldn't even hear the music or talking. He was very understanding but said if he got called back, we would probably have to leave because the homeowner would just keep calling and saying it was disturbing him. This homeowner was INSIDE his house and you could barely hear us from outside ( I am sure of this because I walked up to the access steps and recorded the sound ). We stayed for a while, but it sure put a damper on the night when you have to spend the first 20 minutes defending your right to be on the public beach, and worrying that the police are going to be called again. I have lived in walton county my entire life, and resent that I can't have a LEGAL bonfire on the public beach without having to defend my right to do so.
     
  11. Danny Glidewell

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    Things have sure changed from the good old days Sunny 850. Remember when you could camp on the beach, fish all night and no one would even come around? The only problem back then was if you ran out of supplies you had to drive all the way back to Freeport to find an open store. Hard to believe that world existed only 30-40 years ago.
     
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    It was only
    It was only a matter of time, seeing that the Re-nourishment Failed, that someone would open Pandora's Box and now throw the "Customary Use" argument into the mix.

    Soap Pedaler, I'm not picking on you, you are entitled to your opinion on this subject, but I just find it funny that with the failure of the county's attempt at taking away private property from beach front owners aka. Beach Re Nourishment, now comes plan two - Customary Use.

    Bet ya, C. Jones is behind that push.

    Yeah, yippie, for Private Property Rights!!! There will soon be NONE in South Walton.
     
  13. ASH

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    As an outsider who can only wish he was working his way toward "Local" status, I don't understand.
    Can you expound a bit John?
    I sense a lot of emotion and time involved with this subject. I'm kinda like Geo looking for someone to help dumb this down to how did we get here and where might this go so I understand the position of the two sides. I'd like to think I'm on the right one.
     
  14. kayti elliott

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    All this is depressing. I can't believe how the area is growing and getting even more crowded. Kind of makes me want to move to Wyoming.
     
  15. jkmason

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    Yes it is a bit depressing, but we better deal with it now before the situation gets any worse.
     
  16. John G

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    Look no further than Commissioner C. Jones and the South Walton Small Business Association.

    Both BIG fans and supporters of the beach vendors and both have provided the talking points to them.

    I am amazed at just how many vendors were knowingly allow to continue to operate through all of last season, without proper permits.

    Looks as if a few have been chases off this year but I'm sure the " enforcement " part of that will continue to be a bit slow until more people speak up.
     
  17. soappedaler

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    My neighbor told me that a sheriff deputy was called to the Beachhighland access on Friday because a man and 2 children were sitting on the Beach at Stallworth. Spring break hasn't even started. Will the deputies be tied up all season running people off the beach instead watching neighborhoods for "real" crime like burglary and assault?
     
  18. Bob Wells

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    Probably, as many will complain about the lack of enforcement on the beach on the one hand and the lack of patrolling for real crime on the other. Some even say that the WCSO may be over staffed to a similar sized county in Alabama and maybe top heavy to boot.
     
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    But your original comment was a dig huh Bob Wells?

    Yes, I did say that the WCSO is top heavy, if you disagree please present your facts that prove otherwise.
     
  20. steel1man

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    Email reply from C.Meadows:

    Thank you for your input on this. This is an ongoing issue that will be resolved only with the consensus of the BCC and at this time we do not have a consensus on how to address vendors.


    Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:07 PM
    To: Cindy Meadows
    Subject: From Sowal vendor haters






    New

    Here's another idea.
    Don't allow ANY vendors on OUR beaches.
    If people want chairs and umbrellas set up for them they should be at a resort.
     

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