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Nature Lover

Beach Crab
Jun 28, 2007
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Hey Joe,

Why are you enjoying some poor working guy's dilemma, when all he is trying to do is build a seawall like YOU have? How do you think they built your wall, with non-fossil fuel burning equipment....get real!

Granted the equiipment used on your wall may not have gotten stuck, but with the loose sand & soil, it sure is a possibility.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
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Hey Joe,

Why are you enjoying some poor working guy's dilemma, when all he is trying to do is build a seawall like YOU have? How do you think they built your wall, with non-fossil fuel burning equipment....get real!

Granted the equiipment used on your wall may not have gotten stuck, but with the loose sand & soil, it sure is a possibility.
Because there is a right way and a wrong way to do something! You'll notice SJ isn't putting sugar in the dozer's gas tank, he's calling the PROPER authorities to deal w/ violations!
 

Nature Lover

Beach Crab
Jun 28, 2007
3
0
Because there is a right way and a wrong way to do something! You'll notice SJ isn't putting sugar in the dozer's gas tank, he's calling the PROPER authorities to deal w/ violations!
THAT POOR GUY IN THE WATER IS WALLERING TO SAVE HIS JOB, SJ was wallering in his misfortune. And he's doing it from his seawall, his dock, and doing it by tresspassing onto a construction site. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, SPORT!
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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THAT POOR GUY IN THE WATER IS WALLERING TO SAVE HIS JOB, SJ was wallering in his misfortune. And he's doing it from his seawall, his dock, and doing it by tresspassing onto a construction site. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, SPORT!
SJ posted these pics as "round 2" of this developer's inept attempts to clear the site. The first attempt was shut down, and as he noted, that stop work notice was run over by heavy equipment on this attempt. We're laughing more at the situation, than the operator - whom the thread noted is probably just trying to earn a living.
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
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Hey Joe,

Why are you enjoying some poor working guy's dilemma, when all he is trying to do is build a seawall like YOU have? How do you think they built your wall, with non-fossil fuel burning equipment....get real!

Granted the equiipment used on your wall may not have gotten stuck, but with the loose sand & soil, it sure is a possibility.


:roll:You are making untrue assumptions. I own no property with a seawall.

Because there is a right way and a wrong way to do something! You'll notice SJ isn't putting sugar in the dozer's gas tank, he's calling the PROPER authorities to deal w/ violations!


"Possible" violations.

THAT POOR GUY IN THE WATER IS WALLERING TO SAVE HIS JOB, SJ was wallering in his misfortune. And he's doing it from his seawall, his dock, and doing it by tresspassing onto a construction site. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, SPORT!
I am not "wallering in his misfortune." I am reporting observations of something which I think is wrong and harmful to the environment. I have not tresspassed onto this "construction site."

You should change your name, because a nature lover wouldn]t have your prospective.

SJ posted these pics as "round 2" of this developer's inept attempts to clear the site. The first attempt was shut down, and as he noted, that stop work notice was run over by heavy equipment on this attempt. We're laughing more at the situation, than the operator - whom the thread noted is probably just trying to earn a living.

Again, I'm not laughing at the situtaion. It makes me more sick than silly. I don't care whether the kid is trying to make a buck or a million bucks. Digging out the Bay requires permits, and while they may have a permit to erect a seawall on the property, I don't think it provides them with the ability to dig out a trench in the Bay. If an employer asked you to knowingly violate the law, would you do it? Even if he says that you are fired if you don't do it? Maybe this kid operating the equipment isn't even aware of the wrong doing, but I bet the developer or foreman in charge is very aware, especially after already being busted by Code Enforcement for violations.
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
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Santa Rosa Beach
No that is the operator's seat. The driver is in the water trying to get muck out of the tracks, or something like that. I'll blow it up for you. (not the track hoe, but the image). ;-)

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Now that I look at that photo again, either that guy is really deep down in the muck, or he dug one heck of a hole. That depth of water was never more than maybe one foot along that stretch where his left track is stuck. That track on the equipment is probably around 30" in height, and the top of the back end of that track must be two feet under water, at least.

Actually, he looks kind of like Ro Cuchens. Someone should submit it to AFV! I have to comment that it seems like whenever you guys see something big and yellow, somekind of trigger goes off. Do you do that with school buses too?!!
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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AI have to comment that it seems like whenever you guys see something big and yellow, somekind of trigger goes off. Do you do that with school buses too?!!

Yes, when the lady, driving the school bus down my street, going in excess of 35mph on a narrow dirt road, a trigger goes off inside me, as I think about a dog running into the street, in the path of the school bus. Rumor has it in the neighborhood, that she has already ran over one dog.

BTW, florida girl, there is plenty of yellow equipment which does not set off a trigger within me. However, when I see a piece stuck in the water overnight, I begin to ask questions.
 
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NoHall

hmmmm......can't remember
May 28, 2007
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Northern Hall County, GA
Again, I'm not laughing at the situtaion. It makes me more sick than silly. I don't care whether the kid is trying to make a buck or a million bucks. Digging out the Bay requires permits, and while they may have a permit to erect a seawall on the property, I don't think it provides them with the ability to dig out a trench in the Bay. If an employer asked you to knowingly violate the law, would you do it? Even if he says that you are fired if you don't do it? Maybe this kid operating the equipment isn't even aware of the wrong doing, but I bet the developer or foreman in charge is very aware, especially after already being busted by Code Enforcement for violations.

I think I was the first one to cry "pity" for the dude in the mud. Even so, as a private contractor I have to agree with you that there is personal responsibility and accountability.

We have a large lake here that is owned by the Corps of Engineers. I am constantly asked to do things by homeowners that involve Corps property. (The area between privately owned land and the edge of the water.) I agree if and only if I am allowed to speak to the Ranger in charge myself. Why is that? Because if I do something that aggravates the corps, there are consequences that include:
  • a fine for the homeowner
  • the loss of the homeowner's dock permit
  • decreased property value resulting from the loss of the dock permit
  • a minimum of $500 in fines to me as the contractor
  • another $500 per employee I have working for me on the site

I'm sorry for the guy in the water because he may be (probably is) blindly trusting that his employer is doing the right thing. But I have put a lot of energy into following rules all my life and I expect others to do the same. We're all happy and comfortable that way...
 

Miss Kitty

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Jun 10, 2005
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Actually, he looks kind of like Ro Cuchens. Someone should submit it to AFV! I have to comment that it seems like whenever you guys see something big and yellow, somekind of trigger goes off. Do you do that with school buses too?!!

Ro Ho!!!! :D
 
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