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BeachSiO2

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I agree with you Winnie. As long as the U.S. Government spends billions on military equipment, there will be American companies figuring out how to make a profit on it. Here are some comments from one post-mortem article that may be of interest. It includes some comments on the Corker amendment.

"The final bill closely followed a compromise proposal pitched by Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), which would have required automakers who accepted federal aid to reduce two-thirds of their outstanding debt through an equity swap with bondholders. Corker?s plan would also have required that labor costs at participating companies be brought on par with foreign competitors such as Nissan, Toyota and Honda.


Senators said the final impasse was over that last provision, between the United Auto Workers (UAW) union and Senate Republicans. The UAW resisted to a specific date by which they would agree to ?wage parity,? while the GOP was insisting on a more immediate date in 2009."
 

BeachSiO2

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Here is the vote breakdown...

The 52-35 roll call by which opponents on Thursday prevented the Senate from considering a $14 billion emergency bailout passed by the House for U.S. automakers.


On this vote, a "yes" vote was a vote to formally consider the House bill and a "no" vote was a vote to stop its progress. Supporters of the bailout needed 60 votes to advance it. Voting "yes" were 40 Democrats, 10 Republicans and 2 independents. Voting "no" were 4 Democrats and 31 Republicans.


Alabama
Sessions (R) No; Shelby (R) No.
Alaska
Murkowski (R) No; Stevens (R) Not Voting.
Arizona
Kyl (R) No; McCain (R) No.
Arkansas
Lincoln (D) No; Pryor (D) Yes.
California
Boxer (D) Yes; Feinstein (D) Yes.
Colorado
Allard (R) No; Salazar (D) Yes.
Connecticut
Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (I) Yes.
Delaware
Biden (D) Not Voting; Carper (D) Yes.
Florida
Martinez (R) No; Nelson (D) Yes.
Georgia
Chambliss (R) No; Isakson (R) No.
Hawaii
Akaka (D) Yes; Inouye (D) Yes.
Idaho
Craig (R) Not Voting; Crapo (R) No.
Illinois
Durbin (D) Yes.
Indiana
Bayh (D) Yes; Lugar (R) Yes.
Iowa
Grassley (R) No; Harkin (D) Yes.
Kansas
Brownback (R) Yes; Roberts (R) No.
Kentucky
Bunning (R) No; McConnell (R) No.
Louisiana
Landrieu (D) Yes; Vitter (R) No.
Maine
Collins (R) Yes; Snowe (R) Yes.
Maryland
Cardin (D) Yes; Mikulski (D) Yes.
Massachusetts
Kennedy (D) Not Voting; Kerry (D) Not Voting.
Michigan
Levin (D) Yes; Stabenow (D) Yes.
Minnesota
Coleman (R) No; Klobuchar (D) Yes.
Mississippi
Cochran (R) No; Wicker (R) No.
Missouri
Bond (R) Yes; McCaskill (D) Yes.
Montana
Baucus (D) No; Tester (D) No.
Nebraska
Hagel (R) Not Voting; Nelson (D) Yes.
Nevada
Ensign (R) No; Reid (D) No.
New Hampshire
Gregg (R) No; Sununu (R) Not Voting.
New Jersey
Lautenberg (D) Yes; Menendez (D) Yes.
New Mexico
Bingaman (D) Yes; Domenici (R) Yes.
New York
Clinton (D) Yes; Schumer (D) Yes.
North Carolina
Burr (R) No; Dole (R) Yes.
North Dakota
Conrad (D) Yes; Dorgan (D) Yes.
Ohio
Brown (D) Yes; Voinovich (R) Yes.
Oklahoma
Coburn (R) No; Inhofe (R) No.
Oregon
Smith (R) Not Voting; Wyden (D) Not Voting.
Pennsylvania
Casey (D) Yes; Specter (R) Yes.
Rhode Island
Reed (D) Yes; Whitehouse (D) Yes.
South Carolina
DeMint (R) No; Graham (R) Not Voting.
South Dakota
Johnson (D) Yes; Thune (R) No.
Tennessee
Alexander (R) Not Voting; Corker (R) No.
Texas
Cornyn (R) Not Voting; Hutchison (R) No.
Utah
Bennett (R) No; Hatch (R) No.
Vermont
Leahy (D) Yes; Sanders (I) Yes.
Virginia
Warner (R) Yes; Webb (D) Yes.
Washington
Cantwell (D) Yes; Murray (D) Yes.
West Virginia
Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes.
Wisconsin
Feingold (D) Yes; Kohl (D) Yes.
Wyoming
Barrasso (R) No; Enzi (R) No.
 

Winnie

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scooterbug44

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The profit margin on military contracts makes sure there will not be a foreign supplier. We've been grabbing our ankles on that for years - during the debates McCain was railing about the massive differences between the contract prices and what we actually pay!
 

traderx

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The profit margin on military contracts makes sure there will not be a foreign supplier. We've been grabbing our ankles on that for years - during the debates McCain was railing about the massive differences between the contract prices and what we actually pay!

We have a foreign supplier that was awarded the tanker contract unless Mac and others can overturn it.
 

BeachSiO2

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We have a foreign supplier that was awarded the tanker contract unless Mac and others can overturn it.

Was it because they were the lowest bidder or no US company bid on the job. My comment was that the US will always bid on the jobs and the original inference was that there may be no US bidder to put forth a bid.
 

traderx

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Was it because they were the lowest bidder or no US company bid on the job. My comment was that the US will always bid on the jobs and the original inference was that there may be no US bidder to put forth a bid.

Boeing also bid but was not the lowest bidder.
 
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