Beach Chair vendor moved my chairs

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  1. Bluznbeach

    Bluznbeach Beach Lover

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    Amen, tsutcli. I don't care if people want to rent chairs, but those of us who don't have the same right to access and enjoy the beach.
     
  2. Teresa

    Teresa SoWal Guide Staff Member

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    As a long time local, I know when to go to the beach and that doesn't include July. Most other months we enjoy the sunsets. Or our parks. Or Grayton Beach. Grayton has always had beach chair vendors but there seems to be far more now. Resorts such as Rosemary Beach or Seaside always have set ups, that's expected.

    However, our public beach accesses are for everyone and deserve protection from vendors taking them over. Seems like they should be restricted far more than the new ordinance permits.
     
  3. steel1man

    steel1man Beach Fanatic

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    actually you have MORE rights on public beaches. Check the rules and regs.
     
  4. sunspotbaby

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    When I used to write for the Sun, I remember this being an issue in Destin. It has gotten worse in Destin in the past 10 years and has migrated East. I knew this was coming. It's my belief that it's actually worsened since the new 'rules' were passed. As a resident and having had some interaction with code enforcement recently, I was very impressed with them and grateful for their time and attention to my concerns. However, there's a serious enforcement issue when it comes to the beaches IMO.
     
  5. steel1man

    steel1man Beach Fanatic

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    With Beach Enforcement it's all about PERSISTENCE
     
  6. sunny850

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    I too am a lifelong resident of Walton County. In 48 years of sitting on the beach, I have personally never rented a beach chair. I carry my chair and beach bag to the beach, read my book, enjoy the sun and surf and bother no one. My particular beach access has very very few beach company setups so I haven't had any bad experiences personally, but I do sympathize with those of you who have. However, I would like to speak for the other side. My son is one of those "beach chair guys". He is 16, an honor student, an athlete, and a local kid who is glad to have a summer job. He works 7 days a week, from 6:00 until 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 until 7:00 p.m. He leaves home at 5:30 in the morning. Despite what some people think, the reason they start so early in the morning is because of the extreme heat. By the time he is done setting up about 40 sets at 9 am, he is drenched with sweat and exhausted. It's hard work but it pays decent and allows him to participate in summer sports with his school in the middle of the day. I assure you he would not purposely set up chairs that weren't going to be rented, just for the fun of it. He sets up the number his boss tells him to, based on experience of how many they will need that day of the week. In Two summers, he has only had a 2 problems, but they were pretty ugly as adult women and men cussed at him, threw his chairs, and accused him of ruining their beach day. In both cases, other adults on the beach came to his defense. In one case, it turned out that a husband had told his wife he had set up their personal chairs and the wife was accusing my son of moving them, when in fact the husband came down and told his wife he had not gotten around to setting them up. I would encourage you to call the owners if you are unhappy, not attack the young kids working. These are our local kids. As a true walton county resident, I am thankful that my son can work on the same beaches he grew up on. I too complain about tourists, but the hospitality industry is what makes it possible for our local kids to stay local.
     
  7. Dawn

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    Some of the guys are local. Many are college students looking to spend time on the beach. Many have the attitude that they own the beach. A big problem is competition - we used to have a reasonable number of companies that cooperated and shared. Now like many other services - the field has gotten too crowded.

    I'm glad to hear your son is benefiting from tourism. It starts from the top - the owners of the companies have to train and treat people the right way.
     
  8. steel1man

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    Of course he does what his boss says....but a lot of these guys ( I have seen with my eyes daily)
    Tell employees to setup X number of chairs...reason your son works early or not at all, is he MUST get as many front row setups as possible as he moves from beach to beach. Then guess what?, after your son goes to workout ( applause for that, this is not his problem) his boss hovers over his setups all day checking to see who takes his bait and sits down on the front row, even if these setups sit empty from 6:00AM til say 12:30pm when his hook is set.....just sayin
     
  9. sunny850

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    I would say most, if not all, of those college kids who come back, are home from college for the summer, living with their parents. They are graduates of Walton County schools, and their parents live here. The money is good, but not nearly good enough for a college student from somewhere else to rent a place in sowal for 2 months, just so they can "spend time on the beach". All of my son's friends come home from college for the summer to do beach chairs, and I expect he will too. The point I was trying to make in my original comment was these are just local kids, working hard, who sometimes get treated pretty bad by fellow local.
     
  10. Dreamer

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    The beach vendors are taking over! Period!
     
  11. Jdarg

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    Sunny 850, from your first post, it sounds like your son's employer has him set up unrented chairs, the number determined by the usual rental history. I think that is what so many have a problem with- unrented chair setups.
     
  12. sunny850

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    It did sound that way, Jdarg, when I reread it, and I was basing that on how it was at his beach chair job last year because it was a privately owned beach where only people staying there could sit so they did set up based on expected numbers. This year, he sets up only for rented sets. He has a clipboard and sets up according to A chart that shows the groupings of chairs based on numbers of people in the group. I will be the first to say I would be furious if I walked across the street with my chair and had no place to sit. I just want to urge people to call the owners or code enforcement, not attack the kids working.
     
  13. dragonflycafe

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    and honestly, it's ruining the area. Breaks my heart.
     
  14. Rachael Ashman McKee

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    Tents are going up before the beach guys. Not loving the tents either, especially several together.
     
  15. Teresa

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    Remember when tents were the only real complaint because people were leaving them up overnight. Along with all the chairs and stuff.
     
  16. Will B

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    I think one well timed sneak pass by one of the Blue Angels could take care of most of those tents!
     
  17. Seagrovestateofmind

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    I had someone in a tent move my chairs last week to fit between me and another tent. This tent's legs were literally touching the second tent's legs on one side and my chair on the other. It looked like we were all together. I had left 6 to 8 ft between my chairs and the vendor chairs on the other side so I had nowhere to really move and leave a walkway. The second tent picked up and moved 3 feet away from them. When I came back down after lunch they had moved my chairs over another foot and I found toys under my chair.

    Seriously people, keep your hands off of other folks stuff.
     
  18. Mike Smith

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    Given the 6am start time you reference your son having to be at work, it seems like the owners of these chair rental companies are ignoring the 7:30 am set-up requirement. Not blaming the kids for doing what they are told...
     
  19. sunny850

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    Set up time


    • This is what the ordinance says:
    • 2013-04-22-60(d)(4): Verbiage changed to allow vendors beach access between “7:30 a.m., or after the morning sea turtle nesting survey has been completed, or whichever is earlier, and one hour after sunset. “ And yes, he gets a daily call from turtle watch folks, who give him the go-ahead way, way before 7:30 Every single day.
     
  20. steel1man

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    Before I question Jeff @ beach enforcement can anyone enlighten me as to how much beach an owner has control over? This AM a new vendor set up
    Saying the home owner was tired of tents in his backyard so he gave permission for vendor to setup and rent umbrellas(6)
    So can he( owner) claim all the way to the water?
    I don't think he can. Only to some imaginary line in the sand..........
     

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