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Beach Nourishment Opposition Lawsuit

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From the Defuniak Herald:

Walton County Board of County Commissioners meeting 4 p.m. on May 12 at South Walton Annex. Among items on agenda are an interlocal agreement for a transit study, a proposal for parking improvements on CR-30A, a request to seek bids for an update to Walton County Comprehensive Plan (CP) Transportation Element, a proposed cover letter to property owners for Walton County Hurricane & Storm Damage Reduction Project, a proposal for revisions to land development code and comp plan policies for major and minor developments and Village Mixed Use, discussion of use of RESTORE Act funding for stormwater solutions, and an adoption hearing for St. Joe Bay-Walton Sector Plan. To precede the meeting at 3 p.m are a special meeting/closed executive session on the Lionel and Tammy Alford v. Walton County and Walton County v. Choctawhatchee Beach Corporation lawsuits.

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA PENSACOLA DIVISION Lionel and Tammy Alford, as Co-Trustees of the Lionel D. Alford, Jr. andTammy Nix Alford Revocable Trust

http://waltonbeachnourishment.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Alford-v.-Walton-County-Complaint.pdf

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Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#27
It is a regular BCC meeting starting at 4:00 PM is my understanding. The meeting prior is at 3:00 PM and is, ho hum, about another lawsuit and is a closed executive session. Steel1man, thanks for the information but their website does not give the names of those involved in trashing the restoration project.
spaglioni avatar
Beach Lover
#28
Good morning. What beaches will be renourished exactly?
miznotebook avatar
Beach Fanatic
#291
Good morning. What beaches will be renourished exactly?

This is a map of the project areas, approximately 18 miles. However what will be renourished (all, part, or nothing) will depend on beachfront owners in the project area signing construction easements to allow project contractors to come onto their property.

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Kurt avatar
Admin
#30
From WZEP AM 1460


Commissioners considered the cover letter for the Storm Reduction Project, that is the beach nourishment project. Mr. Hildreth made a recommendation the cover letter add the cost of the project for Walton. He said he thinks it is appropriate to include the cost of the sand. An attorney for beachfront landowners followed up on suggestions he had. One was to add a paragraph to clearly allow the property owner to say they do not wish to participate instead of just sending the letter back if they are going to participate. There will be one mailout of the easement document to the beachfront property owners. This will include the owners association of condos. Other speakers also said they want better clarity in the letter, including costs and ownership of the project. Matt Gaetz also noted the federal and state governments have not budgeted for the project. Commissioners said there would come a time when they will have to vote to move forward or not. The letter will provide for a six month response. The decision to send the letter with corrections passed. Commissioner Cecilia Jones was the only nay vote. She said the county does not have the money, is concerned with the sand quality and says she can’t support more money.

Dr. Leatherman, also known as Doctor Beach, talked about what people want in a beach. He said fine white sand is one of them and the Florida has the longest stretch of this unique sand. He said the sand is one reason we have the emerald water. Leatherman said he is concerned with the quality of the sand. He told the commissioners they need to get their facts straight. He said he would like to see the sand from the borrow pit. Commissioner Bill Imfeld said he has already directed staff to obtain a sample and send to Doctor Beach.

TDC Director Jim Bagby asked to sign a contract with Trip Advisor. Trip Advisor has been used by other destinations and they sometimes rank high when Walton does not due to not having an account. He said the county is up in bed tax and they expect more strong reporting months. He said spring break was down.

The TDC’s Code Enforcement Officers will be able to write parking tickets. Bagby explained this will not be their first or even secondary job, rather just like any other citation and then only after other options are looked at. Most responses will be complaint driven. Cindy Meadows asked for specifics where she says there are gray areas in some parking violations. Bagby said he will work with the Sheriff. Meadows said there is a lot of parking in the right-of-way, some allowed, some not and some in a gray area. She asked to specifically know when a ticket can be written. Bill Chapman asked the TDC and the Sheriff’s Office to work together and resolve the parking issues.

The new rules for beach vendors will begin the Friday before Memorial Day Weekend. This will have the beach vendors having to meet certain requirements such as where they can vend and having to have permission from upland property owners where there is a question of who owns the beach.
Low Brow avatar
Beach Lover
#31
If they want to opt out of beach renourishment, they should not be allowed to use Citizens insurance or be eligible for any federal or state disaster aid.

Agreed!
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#32
While I agree with zebraspots, there was no insurance reimbursement for our incident and there certainly was no federal or state aid given. And yes, I have both Citizens insurance and flood insurance.
Zebraspots avatar
Beach Fanatic
#33
If the TDC starts writing parking tickets, they had better know where the public ROW is and not ticket anyone parking there. I am not going to pay a parking ticket when safely and politely parking on the ROW just because some nearby homeowner needs a hobby and a higher prune intake.

All of the beach access parking is overflowing and we are technically in the off season. Restricting parking further is not a solution. Adding parking spaces in the ROW is!

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steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#34
If the TDC starts writing parking tickets, they had better know where the public ROW is and not ticket anyone parking there. I am not going to pay a parking ticket when safely and politely parking on the ROW just because some nearby homeowner needs a hobby and a higher prune intake. All of the beach access parking is overflowing and we are technically in the off season. Restricting parking further is not a solution. Adding parking spaces in the ROW is!
doubt they will hand out tickets that they can't enforce........so if you think you can park anywhere in the ROW you want and you get a ticket......bet you pay some how....
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#35
If WCSO doesn't enforce them, they really won't be enforced regularly otherwise.
Zebraspots avatar
Beach Fanatic
#36
My guess is that they will have to have the WCSO do any ticketing, and they have far more important things to do than play meter maid IMO.

The solution to a parking problem is not to reduce parking because nearby property owners complain. The ROWs are public property and any space in them that does not cause a safety issue with an intersection, block a driveway, or a mailbox should be available for parking!
spaglioni avatar
Beach Lover
#37
This is a map of the project areas, approximately 18 miles. However what will be renourished (all, part, or nothing) will depend on beachfront owners in the project area signing construction easements to allow project contractors to come onto their property.
Sorry but the map was not attached.
miznotebook avatar
Beach Fanatic
#38
Sorry but the map was not attached.

It is attached, and people have viewed it. Sorry it is not showing up for you. I got the map from the web site www.protectwaltoncountybeaches.com.
spaglioni avatar
Beach Lover
#39
Thank you. I see it now.
steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#40
Unfortunately I think the anti beach group has more money to spend spreading false info. So the Pro beach group looks DOA...
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#41
Couldn't agree more. At the BCC meeting last Tuesday there were many out and out lies put forth. It must be really encouraging and wonderful to be so greedy just because you were fortunate enough to make a lot of money. The restoration project is not really about property rights, its about saving existing property.

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jkmason avatar
Beach Lover
#42
We stayed at a beach front condo in Orange Beach, AL during February/2013. Their beach renourishment project was just being completed. The section of beach directly in front of our condo had already been renourished. The beach was white sand comparable to the sand we have here in blue mountain beach where I now live. I don't understand why we could not have the same results.
steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#43
We stayed at a beach front condo in Orange Beach, AL during February/2013. Their beach renourishment project was just being completed. The section of beach directly in front of our condo had already been renourished. The beach was white sand comparable to the sand we have here in blue mountain beach where I now live. I don't understand why we could not have the same results.
We can and will...it's just a handful of alarmist trying to scare the populous.
steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#44
Wonder if the beach front owners have thought about being able to Move the Terrible tourist even further away from their homes? They can you know. By signing the release to ok the renourishment they will automatically move the TT's 150+/- feet further away from their homes. Sounds like a win win.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#45
You don't think there are enough TTs waiting to try to fill that 150'. If you build it, the hordes will come.
steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#46
You don't think there are enough TTs waiting to try to fill that 150'. If you build it, the hordes will come.
guess what??? Their coming anyway..so let's spread them out and move them closer to Jamaica.

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