Beach Property Rights - public/private

[BeachBliss]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

Here is more food for thought- Consider why you feel so strongly towards this wonderful area and why you LIVE there -it's quiet, very little traffic, not many people. Great reasons!! Why don't you live in Destin or Panama City? Because it's crowded, lots of traffic-right?

Well guess what? Destin and Panama city use to be just like 30-A, BEFORE THEY MADE THE BEACHES PUBLIC!!!! Developers have stayed away from 30-A because the beaches are private. 30-A is the last horizon in the panhandle.

If the beaches go public, than they can develop all around 30-A. Once they get public beaches approved, the next thing will be eliminating the height restrictions (which will a PIECE OF CAKE next to the beach issue) and putting up 40 story high developments in your front and back yards.

Those of you who want the beaches to go public-the developers have you right where they want you-you are being sucked in by them.

Keep the beaches private, the developers will go away because they can't sell the property and we all have our pristine beaches back.

Some people like the crowds, the college kids at spring etc... Hey, I use to and I went to Panama City, Daytona, Ft. Lauderdale, Destin. I didn't want to go to some boring place like 30-A, there's no action there!! But now, we have a chance to preserve this quiet stretch of beach that we all love. Once it goes like Panama City and Destin, we can't get it back.

 

[Miss Kitty]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

help.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

How can the county take something away that YOU AND GOD KNOW never belonged to you in the first place ???

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"...never belonged to you in the first place."
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Just like the land you live on? I assume you or your landlord "own" this land.
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What about the land the American Indian lived on? (Since you want to get spiritual here). They never owned ANY of it. They shared it. Yet they are gone. What happened there? Did they lose their land because they did not believe in the same God you do?
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Ms. SeacrestK, you have succeeded in forcing me to abandon all hope of helping you see the light that you so appropriately "try" to hold in your hand above.

 

[Uncle Timmy]

Re: Public's beach rights being attacked

Well guess what? Destin and Panama city use to be just like 30-A, BEFORE THEY MADE THE BEACHES PUBLIC!!!! Developers have stayed away from 30-A because the beaches are private. 30-A is the last horizon in the panhandle.

If the beaches go public, than they can develop all around 30-A. Once they get public beaches approved, the next thing will be eliminating the height restrictions (which will a PIECE OF CAKE next to the beach issue) and putting up 40 story high developments in your front and back yards.

The developers have you right where they want you-you are being sucked in by them.

Keep the beaches private, the developers will go away because they can't sell the property and we all have our pristine beaches back.

In my experience, Slippery Slope arguments tend to be the favorite fallback response when the original argument is too weak.

You are trying to suggest that if we re-affirm the public?s right to beach access then what? ?we will have high rise condos and SoWal will be Panama City West?

Public access to the beach is in no way linked to the 50? building height restriction.

Furthermore; Developers are buying inland sites and advertising access to PUBLIC (OR PRIVATE) BEACH ACCESSES. I don?t recall ever seeing any developer care whatsoever about what people did once they get to their beach access.

This issue is not a place for scare tactics.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

Here is more food for thought- Consider why you feel so strongly towards this wonderful area and why you LIVE there -it's quiet, very little traffic, not many people. Great reasons!! Why don't you live in Destin or Panama City? Because it's crowded, lots of traffic-right?

Well guess what? Destin and Panama city use to be just like 30-A, BEFORE THEY MADE THE BEACHES PUBLIC!!!! Developers have stayed away from 30-A because the beaches are private. 30-A is the last horizon in the panhandle.

If the beaches go public, than they can develop all around 30-A. Once they get public beaches approved, the next thing will be eliminating the height restrictions (which will a PIECE OF CAKE next to the beach issue) and putting up 40 story high developments in your front and back yards.

Those of you who want the beaches to go public-the developers have you right where they want you-you are being sucked in by them.

Keep the beaches private, the developers will go away because they can't sell the property and we all have our pristine beaches back.

Some people like the crowds, the college kids at spring etc... Hey, I use to and I went to Panama City, Daytona, Ft. Lauderdale, Destin. I didn't want to go to some boring place like 30-A, there's no action there!! But now, we have a chance to preserve this quiet stretch of beach that we all love. Once it goes like Panama City and Destin, we can't get it back.

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GREAT POST!!!! and right on the "money"!!!!
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People, this is it in a nutshell. You can't fight your enemy unless you understand who your true enemy is.

 

[scooterbug44]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

Development and its subsequent density ARE part of the issue (mainly because no one wants to share the swing set now that there are more kids on the playground), but we aren't advocating tearing down fences and gates so bikini clad masses can charge the dunes - we are just wanting people to be able to use the beaches as they have for YEARS.

Many of the people who want the beaches to be officially declared public are the same ones who are opposed to dense developments and any change or leeway in the height restrictions.

 

[seacrestkristi]

Re: Public's beach rights being attacked

Thank you, Uncle Timmy! Where you been?

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

I want to SEE that document. Until I actually see that document I wont believe it. I will be at this meeting and if you want to bring that document and protest the public/counties stand on this matter I am sure there will be more than a few people there that will be happy to examine it. I would also like to see the latest survey and the maps used by the surveyor to make sure they were the latest maps available.

I don't quite understand why you disbelieve this. If it were not so, there would not be all this turmoil. What part do you believe is not true?

Regarding surveys, the private beach property line changes on a daily basis based on the amount and elevation of sand at that moment in time. That's why they use the "wet sand" as an approximation especially during the summer when the tides are at their highest.

This is trivial stuff compared to the big picture, though.

BeachSiO2 gave me a lesson on this a while back.

 

[seacrestkristi]

Re: Private Property Owner's Rights Being Attacked

You mean about the turtles ;-)

 

[BeachBliss]

Re: Public's beach rights being attacked

I'm not trying to scare anyone-I'm just stating facts!!!