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jodiFL

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Jul 28, 2007
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SOWAL,FL
While one might wonder about you, based on many of your comments, this one re LLC's and "trusts" removes all doubt. Are you a charter member of the know nothings, or do you simply have nothing useful to do with your time? Pray tell us why how land is titled bears on this discussion.

And for those rhetorically stoning Mike Huckabee, I've known him for >20 years, and he is the very admirable human being Suzanne says he is. If all our pols, indeed, all our citizens, were like Mike, we'd have a much better world.
Based on your last sentence there is no room left to wonder about you .....
 

elgordoboy

Beach Fanatic
Feb 9, 2007
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I no longer stay in Dune Allen
While one might wonder about you, based on many of your comments, this one re LLC's and "trusts" removes all doubt. Are you a charter member of the know nothings, or do you simply have nothing useful to do with your time? Pray tell us why how land is titled bears on this discussion.

And for those rhetorically stoning Mike Huckabee, I've known him for >20 years, and he is the very admirable human being Suzanne says he is. If all our pols, indeed, all our citizens, were like Mike, we'd have a much better world.
Indeed. What a wonderful place it would be if we were all Mike. Indeed.
 

Beacher

Beach Lover
Apr 9, 2020
57
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Spin it however you want...the people and entities below are suing to get money from the county for closing the beach to protect our community.
Using this crisis to bully and profit.



Parties 1. Plaintiffs, John T. and Esther N. Dodero, are the owners of a beachfront condominium property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 19-3S-18-16110-000-0240) (“Dodero Property”). Specifically, located at 142 Beachside Dr. #24, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Dodero Property includes ownership of an undivided share of common elements appurtenant thereto, which include beachfront property that extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 2 of 243dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and condominium documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

2. Plaintiffs, Lionel and Tammy Alford, are co-trustees of the Lionel D. Alford, Jr. and Tammy Nix Alford Revocable Trust (“Alford Trust”). The Alford Trust owns beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 34-2S-21-42000-019-0010) (“Alford Property”). Specifically, located at 20 Sandy Beach Road, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the Alford Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

3. Plaintiffs, Douglas B. and Shelly L. Bush are co-owners of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 24-3S-19-25120-000-0302) (“Bush Property”). Specifically, located at 659 Eastern Lake Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Bush Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

4. Plaintiff, St. Johns Florida Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of multiple beachfront properties in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 04-3S-20-34000-009-0000 and 04-3S-20-34000-010-0000) (“St. Johns Properties”). Specifically, located at 6061 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, and 6039 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the St. Johns Properties Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 3 of 244extend seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and include dry sand beach. Copies of the deeds are included in Composite Exhibit 1.

5. Plaintiff, KI Florida Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 33-2S-21-42170-017-0050) (“KI Property”). Specifically, located at 747 Scenic Gulf Drive, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the KI Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

6.Plaintiffs, Michael D. and Janet M. Huckabee are co-trustees of the Angus B. Wiles Trust (“Wiles Trust”). The Wiles Trust is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 12-3S-20-34040-010-0020) (“Wiles Property”). Specifically located at 756 Blue Mountain Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Wiles Property extend seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and include dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

7. Plaintiff, Camping on the Gulf Land, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 34-2S-21-42000-003-0000) (“Camping Property”). Specifically, located at 10005 Emerald Coast Parkway W, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the Camping Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

8. Plaintiff, Sandy Shores Property Owners Association, Inc., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16033-000-00A0) (“Shores Property”). Specifically, located at Sandy Shores Court, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Shores Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes the dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

9. Plaintiff, Todd Harlicka, is the owner of property in the Sandy Shores Subdivision of Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16030-000-0120) (“Harlicka Property”). Specifically, located at 80 Sandy Shores Ct., Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Harlicka Property by way of inclusion in the Sandy Shores Subdivision includes an undivided ownership interest in the Shores Property which extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes the dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and homeowner’s association documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

10. Plaintiff, Christopher Corrado, is the owner of beachfront property in the Sandy Shores Subdivision of Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16033-000-0030) (“Corrado Property”). Specifically, located at 113-A Sandy Shores Court, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Corrado Property by way of inclusion in the Sandy Shores Subdivision also includes an undivided ownership interest in the Shores Property which extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 5 of 246and includes the dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and homeowner’s association documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

11. Plaintiffs, Edward J. and Joy L. McMillian, are the owners of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 28-3S-18-16000-011-0010) (“McMillan Property”). Specifically, located at 8016 East County Highway 30A Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the McMillan Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

12. Plaintiff, JE Coastal Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 12-3S-20-34040-010-0040) (“JE Property”). Specifically, located at 778 Blue Mountain Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the JE Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

13. Plaintiffs, Eric and Deborah Wilhelm are co-trustees of the Eric and Deborah Wilhelm Revocable Trust (“Wilhelm Trust”). The Wilhelm Trust is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 03-3S-20-34000-012-0000) (“Wilhelm Property”). Specifically, located at 5305 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Wilhelm Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1. Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 6 of 247

14. Plaintiff, David A. Bradford, is the trustee of the Elizabeth M. Bradford Revocable Trust dated July 12, 2012 (“Bradford Trust”). The Bradford Trust owns beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 08-3S-19-25020-00A-0130) (“Bradford Property”). Specifically located at 251 Gulf Shore Dr., Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Bradford Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

15. Plaintiff, Parker H. Petit, is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16020-00A-0160) (“Petit Property”). Specifically, located at 145 Paradise by the Sea Boulevard, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Petit Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit
 

outofadream

Beach Fanatic
Apr 1, 2008
312
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Spin it however you want...the people and entities below are suing to get money from the county for closing the beach to protect our community.
Using this crisis to bully and profit.



Parties 1. Plaintiffs, John T. and Esther N. Dodero, are the owners of a beachfront condominium property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 19-3S-18-16110-000-0240) (“Dodero Property”). Specifically, located at 142 Beachside Dr. #24, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Dodero Property includes ownership of an undivided share of common elements appurtenant thereto, which include beachfront property that extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 2 of 243dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and condominium documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

2. Plaintiffs, Lionel and Tammy Alford, are co-trustees of the Lionel D. Alford, Jr. and Tammy Nix Alford Revocable Trust (“Alford Trust”). The Alford Trust owns beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 34-2S-21-42000-019-0010) (“Alford Property”). Specifically, located at 20 Sandy Beach Road, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the Alford Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

3. Plaintiffs, Douglas B. and Shelly L. Bush are co-owners of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 24-3S-19-25120-000-0302) (“Bush Property”). Specifically, located at 659 Eastern Lake Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Bush Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

4. Plaintiff, St. Johns Florida Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of multiple beachfront properties in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 04-3S-20-34000-009-0000 and 04-3S-20-34000-010-0000) (“St. Johns Properties”). Specifically, located at 6061 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, and 6039 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the St. Johns Properties Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 3 of 244extend seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and include dry sand beach. Copies of the deeds are included in Composite Exhibit 1.

5. Plaintiff, KI Florida Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 33-2S-21-42170-017-0050) (“KI Property”). Specifically, located at 747 Scenic Gulf Drive, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the KI Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

6.Plaintiffs, Michael D. and Janet M. Huckabee are co-trustees of the Angus B. Wiles Trust (“Wiles Trust”). The Wiles Trust is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 12-3S-20-34040-010-0020) (“Wiles Property”). Specifically located at 756 Blue Mountain Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Wiles Property extend seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and include dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

7. Plaintiff, Camping on the Gulf Land, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 34-2S-21-42000-003-0000) (“Camping Property”). Specifically, located at 10005 Emerald Coast Parkway W, Miramar Beach, Florida 32550, the Camping Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

8. Plaintiff, Sandy Shores Property Owners Association, Inc., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16033-000-00A0) (“Shores Property”). Specifically, located at Sandy Shores Court, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Shores Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes the dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

9. Plaintiff, Todd Harlicka, is the owner of property in the Sandy Shores Subdivision of Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16030-000-0120) (“Harlicka Property”). Specifically, located at 80 Sandy Shores Ct., Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Harlicka Property by way of inclusion in the Sandy Shores Subdivision includes an undivided ownership interest in the Shores Property which extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes the dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and homeowner’s association documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

10. Plaintiff, Christopher Corrado, is the owner of beachfront property in the Sandy Shores Subdivision of Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16033-000-0030) (“Corrado Property”). Specifically, located at 113-A Sandy Shores Court, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Corrado Property by way of inclusion in the Sandy Shores Subdivision also includes an undivided ownership interest in the Shores Property which extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 5 of 246and includes the dry sand beach. Copies of the deed and homeowner’s association documents are included as Composite Exhibit 1.

11. Plaintiffs, Edward J. and Joy L. McMillian, are the owners of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 28-3S-18-16000-011-0010) (“McMillan Property”). Specifically, located at 8016 East County Highway 30A Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the McMillan Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

12. Plaintiff, JE Coastal Properties, L.L.C., is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 12-3S-20-34040-010-0040) (“JE Property”). Specifically, located at 778 Blue Mountain Road, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the JE Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1.

13. Plaintiffs, Eric and Deborah Wilhelm are co-trustees of the Eric and Deborah Wilhelm Revocable Trust (“Wilhelm Trust”). The Wilhelm Trust is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 03-3S-20-34000-012-0000) (“Wilhelm Property”). Specifically, located at 5305 County Highway 30A W, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Wilhelm Property extends seaward to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit 1. Case 3:20-cv-05358-RV-HTC Document 1 Filed 04/06/20 Page 6 of 247

14. Plaintiff, David A. Bradford, is the trustee of the Elizabeth M. Bradford Revocable Trust dated July 12, 2012 (“Bradford Trust”). The Bradford Trust owns beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 08-3S-19-25020-00A-0130) (“Bradford Property”). Specifically located at 251 Gulf Shore Dr., Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459, the Bradford Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included in Composite Exhibit 1.

15. Plaintiff, Parker H. Petit, is the owner of beachfront property in Walton County, Florida (Parcel ID# 35-3S-18-16020-00A-0160) (“Petit Property”). Specifically, located at 145 Paradise by the Sea Boulevard, Inlet Beach, Florida 32461, the Petit Property extends to the mean highwater line of the Gulf of Mexico and includes dry sand beach. A copy of the deed is included as Composite Exhibit
SHAMEFUL PEOPLE! A perfect example of self absorbed, entitled narcissistic people…
 

FactorFiction

Beach Fanatic
Feb 18, 2016
494
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Spin it however you want...the people and entities below are suing to get money from the county for closing the beach to protect our community.
Using this crisis to bully and profit.

While the information you posted is available to those who choose to do the work, what exactly is your purpose for posting their personal information here? They aren't hiding, so what does this accomplish?

Bay County found a way to allow deeded owners to set foot on their beaches while keeping guests, tourists, and renters off their beaches. That seemed like a reasonable way to retain constitutional rights, but remove the threat of congregating and/or bringing the virus from other areas. The Bay County owners are only allowed on THEIR beach property, no one else's, and not the public beach areas.

I am constantly amazed at how ugly and vindictive so many posters on here and other social media can get because they DISAGREE. Making assumptions about people's motives is just that: assuming (and you know what is said about that). You THINK you know why people are filing a lawsuit over their personal property rights, but you don't know. I bet money is the least of their motives, but I don't know either.

Eroding property rights is no different than eroding freedom of speech rights or firearm rights. Be careful what you criticize and be careful what you ask for.
 
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FactorFiction

Beach Fanatic
Feb 18, 2016
494
409
What I ask for is for you to respect authority and be a good neighbor.

Thanks, and THAT is a reasonable request. Unfortunately, what you did in the post I responded to was far different. Can we agree that a temporary suspension of the right to be on one's own deeded property, excluding all others except for the deeded owners, seems like an over reach? Similar to temporarily removing our rights to bear arms and/or our free speech? Everyone wants this to be over, and we all need to do our part to help get there. We just need to be very careful about eroding rights to an unnecessary extent. The next rights to be eroded could be yours or mine.
 

Beacher

Beach Lover
Apr 9, 2020
57
13
Thanks, and THAT is a reasonable request. Unfortunately, what you did in the post I responded to was far different. Can we agree that a temporary suspension of the right to be on one's own deeded property, excluding all others except for the deeded owners, seems like an over reach? Similar to temporarily removing our rights to bear arms and/or our free speech? Everyone wants this to be over, and we all need to do our part to help get there. We just need to be very careful about eroding rights to an unnecessary extent. The next rights to be eroded could be yours or mine.
Well let's be real. If my backyard was attracting millions of people I would be OK with closing it. I wouldn't whine. I wouldn't worry that the government is going to erode my property rights. I certainly wouldn't ask the county to pay me if they closed it. That's some grade A manure.
 
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