Canopy on the beach

[30A Skunkape]

JDarg, you should do as I plan to from now on and ignore Dr. NW's posts. He's just a troll.



For real?

And I'm a nuclear physicist, a real estate agent, part-time bartender at a well-known SoWal joint, and I'm getting ready to open a small, privately owned bookstore specializing in vintage Junior League cookbooks.

I love me some pinwheels

 

[jodiFL]

This canopy thing is going to need more discussion. I have not seen any post in which any evidence that canopies were causing any decline in turtle numbers, only alot of emotion, no logic or facts. As everyone has agreed, the canopies have been up for years overnight and the turtle numbers have not declined. I really think the whole reason for the ordinace was to harass tourist. It seems clear to me from the post on this board, that most locals hold tourist in contempt and which we did not come to "their" beach. Well unless you people have purchased the beach, you don't own it. By the way, the remove it or lose it does not apply to private property. How come no one complains about that?

I posted a picture on the previous page that shows a "false crawl" meaning that the turtle came on the beach to lay her eggs but ran into a canopy and other stuff causing her to go back in the water without laying eggs. Whether or not she will ever make back to lay again is yet to be seen. But that is proof of one less this year. Hopefully she will survive another year at sea and be back next year. As for the ordinance not applying to private property, the issue of exactly what is private is still in the courts in Florida so it could change at any time. I suggest if you feel so unwanted and harassed that you find another area to vacation at. Unless you want to cough up a couple of million $ to own a piece of this beach and profess that the rules dont apply to you.

 

[Jdarg]

I love me some pinwheels

Junior Leaguers can rock some pinwheels, huh?

Think I'll dig out my Junior League of Denver cookbook and find something for dinner.

 

[Smiling JOe]

remember that red chicklets are available for giving to trolls.

 

[jamster]

Nope. I'm just fine with opposing opinions.

Just don't care for folks who stir up trouble just for sport.

Something actually has to be difficult to be considered sport. In all honesty I think a baby sea turtle is just as cute as the next guy and I wouldn't want to see one killed. I mean, I haven't gone out of my way to club a baby seal in years.

 

[Smiling JOe]

video from Walton County Board of County Commissioners - June 10, 2008
(Courtesy of Ray Padgett and www.waltondemocrats.org )

This discussion was the first of two public hearings regarding the "Leave No Trace" Beach Ordinance. The second and final meeting from July has not yet been posted to their site.

(a big THANK YOU to Ray for recording the meetings!)

 

[Andy A]

Amen to the above post.

 

[Mango]

So you are implying that sea turtles can not hatch and reproduce by themselves without human intervention like they have for thousands of years?

I suggest you review this article for a lesson in real life - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...esperate-battle-save-duckling-jaws-heron.html

Every species, including you, needs some intervention once in while. ;-)

 

[Fryday_1]

I posted a picture on the previous page that shows a "false crawl" meaning that the turtle came on the beach to lay her eggs but ran into a canopy and other stuff causing her to go back in the water without laying eggs. Whether or not she will ever make back to lay again is yet to be seen. But that is proof of one less this year. Hopefully she will survive another year at sea and be back next year. As for the ordinance not applying to private property, the issue of exactly what is private is still in the courts in Florida so it could change at any time. I suggest if you feel so unwanted and harassed that you find another area to vacation at. Unless you want to cough up a couple of million $ to own a piece of this beach and profess that the rules dont apply to you.

I think that might be a great idea. I should purchase some beach property and then erect the largest canopy I can find. My freinds and family could all come down and enjoy themselves. We humans have the abilty to adapt and make our surroundings much more comfortable, that is the reason for the canopies.

Four your information, I am an attorney and have read the FL Supreme Court ruling regarding priviate beach ownership. Their opinion for once is right on and legally sound. Your statement that the issue is still not decided is wrong. The highest court in FL has ruled. Their will be no more decisions. Given their holding in this case, I am thinking that a successful challenge is possiable to the "remove it or lose it" ordinance. It appears to me that it represents an unlawful taking and possiable an interfrence to interstate commerce, however that might be a strech. Any ideas from the rest of you.

 

[seagrovegirl]

:rofl: