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Beach Fanatic
Jul 9, 2005
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Shelby County, Alabama
The sea turtle issue is not and should not be the only concern. High winds and storms occure frequently, and without schedule, in the area, and turn people's unattended belongings into projectile beach gear. It is a safety hazard to person and property, and could expose a liability risk for someone.
 

Bob Wells

Beach Fanatic
Jul 25, 2008
3,380
2,857
The sea turtle issue is not and should not be the only concern. High winds and storms occure frequently, and without schedule, in the area, and turn people's unattended belongings into projectile beach gear. It is a safety hazard to person and property, and could expose a liability risk for someone.

Unless you know who leaves their stuff on the beach and can prove it, the only liability is yours as you will be paying for the damage/ injury.
 

Rita

margarita brocolia
Dec 1, 2004
5,207
1,634
Dune Allen Beach
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"Beachgoers should be given a reasonable explanation why they cannot leave their items on the beach overnight and have adequate time to remove their belongings before they are thrown away, Mares said." - Sonny Mares, executive director of the TDC

Tell them it affects turtle nesting, creates a potential hazard if storms brew up, looks trashy and encourages others to think it is OK so they leave their stuff overnight also. They should already know this anyway. It is a matter of not caring and being lazy. imo

Is this not a "reasonable explanation"?

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GoodWitch58

Beach Fanatic
Oct 10, 2005
4,810
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I wish someone would give a "reasonable explanation" for why anyone would think they can leave their stuff on the beach?

Where else in the world can you put up a tent; leave it, and expect it to be there when you come back?

what mind set says I can leave my chairs here until I need them again, or not?

and the litter issue: there is no reasonable explanation for that!
 

Interested Girl

Beach Fanatic
Aug 15, 2008
465
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I wish someone would give a "reasonable explanation" for why anyone would think they can leave their stuff on the beach?

Where else in the world can you put up a tent; leave it, and expect it to be there when you come back?

what mind set says I can leave my chairs here until I need them again, or not?

and the litter issue: there is no reasonable explanation for that!

On the property that I own.

In your post please insert the words "my property" everywhere you use the word "Beach".
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Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
31,644
1,773
interested girl,
If I am walking down the beach ("your property") and I am injured because I didn't see the beach chair you left out on the beach ("your property"), and I tripped over it, causing the baby I'm holding to fall out of my hands, and thus hitting his head on your beach volleyball post, and dying from head injury, are you going to pay for my damages or fight like hell, saying that it is public?
 

wrobert

Beach Fanatic
Nov 21, 2007
4,132
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DeFuniak Springs
www.defuniaksprings.com
interested girl,
If I am walking down the beach ("your property") and I am injured because I didn't see the beach chair you left out on the beach ("your property"), and I tripped over it, causing the baby I'm holding to fall out of my hands, and thus hitting his head on your beach volleyball post, and dying from head injury, are you going to pay for my damages or fight like hell, saying that it is public?



Damages come from negligence, I would be fighting to show that you were the negligent one for walking in the sand and holding a baby, while approaching my clearly visible hazard on my private property.

In Florida private property no longer has to be marked to show trespassing.
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
31,644
1,773
Good luck with that one. On a dark night, hazards are not clearly visible. Many cases have been won by the victim, even when trespassing on property fenced off with warning signs. Damage in this case would come from negligence, and my attorneys would be showing your negligence in leaving hazards on the beach which the public has been using for a long time.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
3,339
Sowal
To get to the beach I MUST walk past at least 3 large signs telling me that I cannot leave items on the beach overnight. One is basic beach rules. One is all about turtles nesting. One is ONLY telling me that I can't leave items on the beach.

To leave the beach I MUST walk past 2 signs WHOSE ONLY PURPOSE is to tell me I cannot leave items on the beach or they will be discarded. One is mounted above a trash can.

This is at a relatively hidden neighborhood access w/ no parking, bathroom, etc. just a path, stairs, and signs (that keep multiplying due to lawyers and apparently epidemic stupidity).

At what point have myself and other beachgoers not been informed 1) that they cannot leave items on the beach overnight 2) the reason why?

I posit that anyone who does not know these 2 facts is so stupid that they couldn't find the beach, let alone their arse w/ both hands!
 
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