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sandybanks

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Mar 15, 2008
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Here4Good

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Jul 10, 2006
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After reading a couple of columns by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, I am starting to think I know who Shelly is now...:D

Seriously, this is interesting reading.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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The fact that they may come out on the losing end in a collision w/ a larger vehicle is not a valid reason as to why people can't drive Smart cars. As long as there are semis on the road, any vehicle will come out on the losing end - even a supersized Hummer or Suburban. I've seen some horrific accidents (usually due to icy/snowy weather on interstates and highways) and even an old steel land yacht loses that battle.

Gas prices will not go down until people reduce the demand and the government makes the oil companies use their profits to maintain and upgrade refineries etc.

It costs me $ indirectly when gas prices go up, but because of my lifestyle choices I still spend less than $50 a month on gas - even at current prices. I'll pay higher prices if that's what it takes to make people wake up and stop being wasteful.
 
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JustaLocal

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The fact that they may come out on the losing end in a collision w/ a larger vehicle is not a valid reason as to why people can't drive Smart cars. As long as there are semis on the road, any vehicle will come out on the losing end - even a supersized Hummer or Suburban. I've seen some horrific accidents (usually due to icy/snowy weather on interstates and highways) and even an old steel land yacht loses that battle.

Gas prices will not go down until people reduce the demand and the government makes the oil companies use their profits to maintain and upgrade refineries etc.

Excellent point!
 

seagrovegirl

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Feb 9, 2008
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:whack: Yes, since big corporations can happily just take the same hit. :roll:

Let's take milk for instance. The cost has gone up as it is very heavy on the oil use. First, the obvious cost of transporting the milk. Both to a bottler and to the grocery store. Secondly, those milks "bottles" are generally plastic, plastic is made from oil.

I had to comment on the cost for transportation. My husband is an independant truck driver, (LandStar) fuel is 3.95 per gallon and he is being offered loads that are under 1.50 per mile, less than a year ago. Trucking companies are paying less to the drivers.....so what is the excuse for higher groceries, etc. It's B...S..T.............
 

Alicia Leonard

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I had to comment on the cost for transportation. My husband is an independant truck driver, (LandStar) fuel is 3.95 per gallon and he is being offered loads that are under 1.50 per mile, less than a year ago. Trucking companies are paying less to the drivers.....so what is the excuse for higher groceries, etc. It's B...S..T.............

I read a really great article on MSN about independent truckers going out of business these last two years. Broke my heart. Truckers are the backbone of American commerce.

They cited gas prices, maintenance and being pushed out by big business that gets a break on fuel prices due to bulk purchasing. Many wish for the old union days and one was quoted as saying, "I wish Jimmy Hoffa was still alive.":sosad:
 

seagrovegirl

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Feb 9, 2008
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I read a really great article on MSN about independent truckers going out of business these last two years. Broke my heart. Truckers are the backbone of American commerce.

They cited gas prices, maintenance and being pushed out by big business that gets a break on fuel prices due to bulk purchasing. Many wish for the old union days and one was quoted as saying, "I wish Jimmy Hoffa was still alive.":sosad:

I was quite amazed to learn that there are no trucker unions! It's desperately needed.
 

sandybanks

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Mar 15, 2008
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In a nice place
63 Euro cents will buy you a whole US dollar. And she keeps going down lower and lower.

How low will she go?
 

seaside2

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Apr 2, 2007
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The fact that they may come out on the losing end in a collision w/ a larger vehicle is not a valid reason as to why people can't drive Smart cars. As long as there are semis on the road, any vehicle will come out on the losing end - even a supersized Hummer or Suburban. I've seen some horrific accidents (usually due to icy/snowy weather on interstates and highways) and even an old steel land yacht loses that battle.

Gas prices will not go down until people reduce the demand and the government makes the oil companies use their profits to maintain and upgrade refineries etc.

It costs me $ indirectly when gas prices go up, but because of my lifestyle choices I still spend less than $50 a month on gas - even at current prices. I'll pay higher prices if that's what it takes to make people wake up and stop being wasteful.


Scooter, you've heard me rant on this for some time, so don't get terribly offended. The REAL answer is not increased efficiency and more refineries. the real answer is to quit burning the stuff. Increased efficiencies, etc will help in the short term, but the real answer is to become self sufficient.

BTW, the balck stallion ate some $3.499 premium yesterday afternoon.
 

seaside2

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Apr 2, 2007
785
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All over the place
The fact that they may come out on the losing end in a collision w/ a larger vehicle is not a valid reason as to why people can't drive Smart cars. As long as there are semis on the road, any vehicle will come out on the losing end - even a supersized Hummer or Suburban. I've seen some horrific accidents (usually due to icy/snowy weather on interstates and highways) and even an old steel land yacht loses that battle.

Gas prices will not go down until people reduce the demand and the government makes the oil companies use their profits to maintain and upgrade refineries etc.

It costs me $ indirectly when gas prices go up, but because of my lifestyle choices I still spend less than $50 a month on gas - even at current prices. I'll pay higher prices if that's what it takes to make people wake up and stop being wasteful.


Scooter, you've heard me rant on this for some time, so don't get terribly offended. The REAL answer is not increased efficiency and more refineries. The real answer is to quit burning the stuff. Increased efficiencies, etc will help in the short term, but the real answer is to become self sufficient.

BTW, the black stallion ate some $3.499 premium yesterday afternoon.
 
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