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Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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Gas prices will not go down until people reduce the demand and the government makes the oil companies use their profits to maintain and upgrade refineries etc.
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Everyone has their own theories, and here goes mine. If the gov't dictates how a company's profits are to be spent, we will be living in a society where I will begin to seek a small island outside the USA, out of the hurricane zone. If the gov't demands that the oil companies spend their profits on refineries, the oil companies will just continue to pass 100% of those costs to the consumer, because they still have to make their profit margin to stay in business. If their profit margin drops, so does their stock price, and their investors pull out of the company, leaving the company high and dry, and eliminating competition for the other companies, which can weather more storm. That leads to monopoly or gov't bail out, neither of which work for society.

Automakers will produce vehicles which can turn a profit and consumers will purchase. In SoWal, I mostly see big vehicles, because that is what people buy. Even so, some small cars, like the Honda Accord, get similar gas mileage to a big Toyota Sequoia. If any of you guys can explain to me why the 2007 Honda Accord, which gets around 19 mpg (city), has more horsepower than a 1990 Porsche 911, I'd like to hear it. My former 1991 Honda Accord had about half the horsepower of the same 2007 model, and the gas mileage was much better on the 1991 model. Stop buying these new high horsepower autos, and they will stop making them, because they cannot turn a profit without sales. With increases in technology, there is no reason why an auto shouldn't get better gas mileage, have more horsepower, and have better fuel economy, as time passes. In addition, there is no reason, other than inflation, that the costs shouldn't decrease with time.
 

ShallowsFuzz

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Dec 26, 2006
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Well, we are all going to be in even deeper troubles if we don't find a way to get someone's attention about these gas prices. Everytime I look at the pump after I have finished pumping gas, or after (shallowsfuzzjr.) pumps the gas, the words, " I am being robbed ", :cry: comes to my mind. The American people should not have to put up with this type of highway robbery.
Seems like I heard about a year or so ago, out in Utah or somewhere out west they found a large reserve of oil. Of course you need a refinery to do what ever it is you have to do to get fuel, and from what I hear there are not too many of those in the US. WELL someone get off their butts and build one, maybe in the area were the oil was located, anything to save cost. I'm just flustered and angry. (My God where is the tylenol)
We all maybe using horses before long. But watch some fool raise the price of feed, then the horses will dye.:dunno: Thank you all for listening.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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It isn't some fool who will raise the prices of the feed. Gas prices will increase the price of hay, corn, oats, etc, because they all require fuel to produce in mass quantities. If you have ever owned a horse, you would see that a $100 bicycle would be a much cheaper and less time consuming way to travel.
 

soappedaler

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Feb 21, 2006
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Dear John,
Ive been obsessing over this bike for a year. They just became availabe. Mine should be here next week. I'm saving for the blender attachment for next years parade. So buy some soap.View attachment 8269
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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Scooter, you've heard me rant on this for some time, so don't get terribly offended. The REAL answer is not increased efficiency and more refineries. The real answer is to quit burning the stuff. Increased efficiencies, etc will help in the short term, but the real answer is to become self sufficient.

BTW, the black stallion ate some $3.499 premium yesterday afternoon.

That's why I said people simply have to USE LESS and that if high prices were the only thing that would cause reduced use, I'd gladly pay more for gas.

I'm not advocating major gov't involvement in big business, just calling for an end to the free passes, tax breaks, special deals, and IMO price gouging that make it so easy for them to be irresponsible regarding maintenence and production. Taking away their gov't given benefits for is not free market Armageddon. ;-)
 
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ShallowsNole

Beach Fanatic
Jun 22, 2005
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Pt Washington
Well, we are all going to be in even deeper troubles if we don't find a way to get someone's attention about these gas prices. Everytime I look at the pump after I have finished pumping gas, or after (shallowsfuzzjr.) pumps the gas, the words, " I am being robbed ", :cry: comes to my mind. The American people should not have to put up with this type of highway robbery.
Seems like I heard about a year or so ago, out in Utah or somewhere out west they found a large reserve of oil. Of course you need a refinery to do what ever it is you have to do to get fuel, and from what I hear there are not too many of those in the US. WELL someone get off their butts and build one, maybe in the area were the oil was located, anything to save cost. I'm just flustered and angry. (My God where is the tylenol)
We all maybe using horses before long. But watch some fool raise the price of feed, then the horses will dye.:dunno: Thank you all for listening.

Dear, I'm sorry I traded the Camry for the SUV, but I fit in better with the other moms at SWHS now. :blush:
 

NotDeadYet

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Jul 7, 2007
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