Gay Marriage - poll added
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Look I understand. On July 4 1776, your god was in vogue and he considered homosexuality immoral. The founding fathers who conceived of and signed the DOI agreed. This ruling carries over to the constitution and is irrevocable to this day.
I am waiting for...Gay Marriage (The Movie) 
I am waiting for...Gay Marriage (The Movie)
I'm thinking more....
Gay Marriage(The Musical)
Gay Marriage (The Soundtrack from the Musical)
6th, I don't know where you are quoting your source regarding statistics in Sweden and Holland, but, I have family who once lived in Holland. From what I saw there, as far as gay marriages, many gay couples partnered with many from other countries. One of the the difficult things of bringing a partner in from another country was the fact that one partner many times had difficulty finding employment, and adapting to a different culture. If your figures have any validity, and I don't have the time to research it now, this may be an underlying cause of divorces amongst gay couples.
As far as social security, would you tell a heterosexual couple that are childless that they are not a family? or one that adopted a child? Families are made all different ways. I find that argument baseless. Even the Catholic church would argue that. Annulments are granted when one party does not wish to have children.
My mother works part time, and her employer is gay. He and his partner adopted an adorable African American baby, a baby that will be afforded many benefits, that unfortunately would probably never have seen, had they not adopted her. The truth is there are not many African American families seeking to adopt. I see them every bit as much as a typical family as everyone else.
and Ash, I applaud you for speaking out. The truth is, MANgo, was uncomfortable at first around my gay male friends. He attended a Catholic school, and in addition, had this machismo, like being around gay men took away from his manlihood. But, after spending time with my friends, who later became his as well, he realized that, 1) they had no interest in him, 2) that they had feelings too, and he realized that he was subconsciously discriminating against them.
There are rules though. No tongue kissing in front of him; when they have parties; if hot tubs are involved, we are out of there; and he will not make the mistake of wear the cowboy costume again at their Halloween parties.
As far as social security, would you tell a heterosexual couple that are childless that they are not a family? or one that adopted a child? Families are made all different ways. I find that argument baseless. Even the Catholic church would argue that. Annulments are granted when one party does not wish to have children.
My mother works part time, and her employer is gay. He and his partner adopted an adorable African American baby, a baby that will be afforded many benefits, that unfortunately would probably never have seen, had they not adopted her. The truth is there are not many African American families seeking to adopt. I see them every bit as much as a typical family as everyone else.
and Ash, I applaud you for speaking out. The truth is, MANgo, was uncomfortable at first around my gay male friends. He attended a Catholic school, and in addition, had this machismo, like being around gay men took away from his manlihood. But, after spending time with my friends, who later became his as well, he realized that, 1) they had no interest in him, 2) that they had feelings too, and he realized that he was subconsciously discriminating against them.
There are rules though. No tongue kissing in front of him; when they have parties; if hot tubs are involved, we are out of there; and he will not make the mistake of wear the cowboy costume again at their Halloween parties.
Mango that's a good point about adoption. Florida seems to take an odd approach. If you are a committed couple who have been together for years, you can't adopt. If your a free wheeling single with a turn style on your bedroom, you can adopt as many kids as you can support. Seems a little odd to me.
San Jose here we come in Sept!! The only thing I regret is that we, and all the other gay couples all over the country that will be traveling there, will be infusing a bankrupt California with millions of dollar$ in marraige license fees--that Arnold is pretty smart!
To the poll, I wouldn't consider sowal.com anywhere near a sample of the electorate. Further, you and I agree here, that it should be legislated by the people. I've already conceded that we've lost the cultural battle, but let the change come through legislation, not activist courts.