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beachmouse

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Dec 5, 2004
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If you're building a house like he has, you've got the expectation that people are going to spend the 10+ years it's taken to build speculating what the deal is.

If he didn't want to draw attention, there are a number of small and very private communities where he could have built in these parts instead. Home would have drawn a lot less chatter if it had been tucked away in Gulf Trace or Three Mile Village instead of being very visible from the heavily-traveled 30-A.

I don't suppose Charlie and family would be willing to open up the home for a charity tour when it's finally finished? Considering how many people have been watching construction for so long, I'd guess there's some good interest in seeing how the inside turned out as well.
 

Santiago

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May 29, 2005
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I actually remain confused about this. Are High Pointe, Paradise By the Sea (Charlie's neighborhood) and Seacrest Beach North part of the traditional Seacrest? If so, how can that be if Alys Beach is in the middle? This is my only beef with Alys Beach. :lol:

All of the above as well as Rosemary Beach, Sandy Shores, Elysee, Long View, were part of what Doodle referred to as the Barber tract which I guess was owned by Barber Dairy. If my memory serves me correctly, he optioned the property and put smaller deals together that he sold off to help offset the large purchase price. High Point was sold to Wes Burnham and Wally Nall, old friends of Doodles and the developers of Edgewater and the Hombre golf course in PCB. Paradise by the Sea was developed by Doodle and sold at very fair prices given the large lots. Sandy Shores was developed by Sandy Nichols and others, also friends of Doodles but the gulf front was retained by Doodle. Elysee was sold mostly to Charles Feagan and Joe Malugen but part was kept by Doodle. I'm not sure but I think that Rosemary was originally sold to or at least contracted by Geoff Wilder, another friend of Doodle and I think the develolper of Lake Place. Of course it ultimately ended up the property of Luecadia. Water's Edge, the original Seacrest Beach was developed by Doodle, and the street named for the late Geoff Wilder, also a friend of Doodle. Seacrest Beach North, now just Seacrest Beach became Doodle's largest development. Some of the details might be a little off but I think that this is a fair summation of the way I heard it many years ago. It was a textbook example of how to put a deal together using other peoples money, and I'm sure a fair amount of his own.
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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One has to question Charlie Hilton's motives when he flat out refuses to install turtle friendly lighting by hiring 5 attorney's.
 
If you're building a house like he has, you've got the expectation that people are going to spend the 10+ years it's taken to build speculating what the deal is.

If he didn't want to draw attention, there are a number of small and very private communities where he could have built in these parts instead. Home would have drawn a lot less chatter if it had been tucked away in Gulf Trace or Three Mile Village instead of being very visible from the heavily-traveled 30-A.

I don't suppose Charlie and family would be willing to open up the home for a charity tour when it's finally finished? Considering how many people have been watching construction for so long, I'd guess there's some good interest in seeing how the inside turned out as well.

I would contibute some $$ to see how it turned out and what the inside looks like for charity. Forget my personal opinions on if it fits or if I like the architecture I'm drawn to it and I'm curious :yikes::blush:. Anyway if they open it I would go if not I'll just gripe from 30A.
 

Lake View Too

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Nov 16, 2008
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The reality is that the exterior has been finished for somewhere near five or six years. No matter how fine you finish a house, it shouldn't take a total of eight or ten years. Oh, I forgot to say, IMHO.
 

SHELLY

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Jun 13, 2005
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That thing has been under "construction" for so long, I understand they're on their 3rd remodel of the kitchen--first tearing out the advocado appliances/harvest gold formica countertops; cycled through almond appliances and Corian countertops; now they've got to contend with stripping out the bubble-era SS & GCT. Will the county ever realize any decent property tax revenue from this place?...I'm betting not....oh, IMHO.

Like I said before, the Bellagio in Vega took 5 years to complete--from implosion of the Dunes in '93 until it opened in '98. If Hilton really wanted to complete that thing, it would have been done a long time ago--including successfully dodging the requirement for turtle lighting. This construction project doesn't impress me in the least--I'm more impressed with grassroots efforts of the folks who are putting up housing around NOLA for the poor folks who lost all to Katrina.
 
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Lake View Too

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How does that saying go...if it smells like a fish, it's fishy? I'm just saying...:blink:
 
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