Honk for Confederate Pride

[Teresa]

1) This has been the most controversial one by far but the most offensive thing about IMO it is it could be construed as "anti-privacy". I don't think it evokes an emotional reaction like the Confederate flag tends to do.

2) I don't know how this one could be offensive. I am offended by the pretend cops organizations that call and ask me for money all the time.

3)

4) MLK: He did play around on his wife, but otherwise? An inspirational, not offensive, figure.

yes.

#1 is problematic because a "balance" plate was never offered- some sort of reproductive freedom theme.

IMO- there should not be a license plate for either side of the choice issue- personal matters do not belong on license plates.

and yes.


I mean, I like seeing all the different plates - that sends out a positive message, helps animals and the environment, and all these that are not controversial. golf, education, manatees, sea turtles, etc. come on, these are very okay with everyone.

what the hail is it about the south and its confederate self? this is 2008 people. get a clue.

I mean, I do encourage present day rebels to seek proper southern decor for their homes, such as a giant confederate flag print on a bedspread with matching custom drapes - perhaps some lovely murals depicting the 1800's all the way through civil rights and even today with that flag just a waving and protesting. those who are into such decor would have many years of personal enjoyment relaxing in this battlefield flag theme and reminiscing about the old days of the civil war and slavery or civil rights protests or just rebel sheeit in general. and it would certainly not offend me - I would never see it but if I did I think I would be greatly entertained and probably wet my pants. and that's all I'm saying.

wait. I did have one more thing. I guess I must admit that this group probably should be able to have their vanity plate, as much as I dislike having to look at it in 2008. I mean, it is a symbol of southern history and pride in addition to the ignorance and bigotry it also came to represent over the years (you cannot separate these out from the overall symbol unfortunately). I say, if someone wants it on their car, then they probably ought to have it. they deserve it in fact.

 

[InletBchDweller]

I mean, I do think a big confederate flag print on your bedspread with matching custom drapes. those who are into the southern decor would have many years of personal enjoyment relaxing in this battlefield flag theme and reminiscing about the old days of the civil war and slavery or civil rights protests or just rebel sheeit in general. and it would certainly not offend me - I would never see it but if I did I think I would be greatly entertained and probably wet my pants. and that's all I'm saying.[/quote]

That is what I am saying. the Rebel flag and/or the Civil War was NOT all about slavery- just a small portion. After reading history books on the Civil War you will see that the war was about about money and control, it is funny how they teach you different in school.... :roll:

 

[Mango]

Since when is an old flag a source of pride that's a reminder of a short period of time in our history that this entire country should be embarrassed about and what it respresents? To me it represents a power struggle where slaves were used as pawns by both the Union and the seceding States.

 

[InletBchDweller]

wait. I did have one more thing. I guess I must admit that this group probably should be able to have their vanity plate, as much as I dislike having to look at it in 2008. I mean, it is a symbol of southern history and pride in addition to the hate and bigotry it also came to represent over the years (you cannot separate these out from the overall symbol unfortunately). I say, if someone wants it on their car, then they probably outght to have it. they deserve it in fact.

I understand that some people feel that way. Trying to attach the flag to the KKK and other racial hate groups. You know the flag did not ask to be associated with those groups. They chose to associate it with them. You know, kinda like Obama and Ferrahkan. Obamas church gave Ferrakhan an award but just because Obama goes to that church does that make him a follower of Ferrakhan??

People view the flag on the way that they were taught. Your feelings are from your learning, my feelings are from my learning. Yes, I know it is 2008 but from what I remember this is a free country and isn't it my right to offend and be offended???

 

[Mango]

Yes, I know it is 2008 but from what I remember this is a free country and isn't it my right to offend and be offended???

Yes, it's your Constitutional right. Offend all you want. This Yankee will still love ya.

 

[InletBchDweller]

Yes, it's your Constitutional right. Offend all you want. This Yankee will still love ya.

well yee haw!! Im a gonna go get me sum Hank on and sing Dixie...
(and buy that tag)

 

[Teresa]

Since when is an old flag a source of pride that's a reminder of a short period of time in our history that this entire country should be embarrassed about and what it respresents? To me it represents a power struggle where slaves were used as pawns by both the Union and the seceding States.

It is embarrassing, but it is also truth. Truth in events, good and bad, southern pride and prejudice, battles and protests. It represents a lot of history which begins with the confederacy and continues to this day - it is called a rebel flag because it is a battle flag, first used on the battlefield and ever after used in protests and a southern symbol. I am not saying it should be banned - it is historical. and anyone who understands history will understand the broad meaning of what the confederate flag has come to symbolize. most do not really know. the rebel flag stands for something they choose, not based on any historical events. therefore, they cannot be embarrassed, because they do not know.

I would bet that canadians and europeans know more about what the confederacy stood for and what its flag represented and came to represent over time, than a southerner.

I understand that some people feel that way. Trying to attach the flag to the KKK and other racial hate groups. You know the flag did not ask to be associated with those groups. They chose to associate it with them. You know, kinda like Obama and Ferrahkan. Obamas church gave Ferrakhan an award but just because Obama goes to that church does that make him a follower of Ferrakhan??
I don't know what to say about this analogy other than I don't get it.

People view the flag on the way that they were taught. Your feelings are from your learning, my feelings are from my learning. Yes, I know it is 2008 but from what I remember this is a free country and isn't it my right to offend and be offended???

I was taught next to nothing about the flag as a child, and took it for granted entirely - just like so many who grow up around a symbol and it just "is" - we see it here and there. I knew it was a "rebel" flag, I knew its origins sorta, I knew it hung in the trucks of rednecks with a gun rack. But, then I studied history and over time, and with much more information to draw from and events to watch on this issue, I came to understand it more completely, I believe.

I've come to terms with the fact that it is only a flag. It cannot physically hurt anyone. I say you should be allowed to fly it all day long. I can only speak for myself when I say that I could never do it - for it does represent slavery and bigotry as well as battles, protests and southern kind of patriotism - it represents a lot of things. I guess you can choose what you want it to represent in your mind. that won't change facts.

 

[florida girl]

The Confederate Flag is a lot more than just slavery, and the more I'm on this forum, the more I'm proud to have been born in the South! There's a considerable culture difference, with no "seeming" meeting of the minds. Each thinks the other is correct, and has the attitude "if you don't like it, move!" Just how many years has it been since the civil war, and has our culture become more "civilized"? We're so politically correct, no one has a backbone to stand up for their culture!

 

[Mango]

The Confederate Flag is a lot more than just slavery, and the more I'm on this forum, the more I'm proud to have been born in the South! There's a considerable culture difference, with no "seeming" meeting of the minds. Each thinks the other is correct, and has the attitude "if you don't like it, move!" Just how many years has it been since the civil war, and has our culture become more "civilized"? We're so politically correct, no one has a backbone to stand up for their culture!

Last time I looked it was the United States Flag that we proudly raise. It is the flag that all soldiers are draped in who die for our Country no matter what State they were born and raised in. It is the flag that was raised at the 9/11 site and brought tears to many to see, the image still imprinted on our memories.

 

[Teresa]

The Confederate Flag is a lot more than just slavery, and the more I'm on this forum, the more I'm proud to have been born in the South! There's a considerable culture difference, with no "seeming" meeting of the minds. Each thinks the other is correct, and has the attitude "if you don't like it, move!" Just how many years has it been since the civil war, and has our culture become more "civilized"? We're so politically correct, no one has a backbone to stand up for their culture!

I still think its your choice to wave any flag that makes you feel all patriotic inside! it has nothing to do with political correctness. no one need move. it has everything to do with what is right for you.

whenever I see the old flag waving away as I travel back to my hometown in Alabama for a visit, it makes me think about a lot of things, and I feel sadness as well as happiness. despite everything, goodness does prevail. and sometimes I smile.