Iceland Volcano

[Lynnie]

The problem is that most of the transatlantic aircraft are twin engine aircraft, and they are given what is called an ETOPS rating which dictates how many minutes they can be from the nearest suitable runway. Our aircraft at Delta are all 180 minute aircraft (some are only 120 minutes). You really can't fly much further south across the Atlantic and still be within 3 hours of a runway. Aircraft with three and four engines are not bound by this and could fly a more southerly route, but they account for a smaller traffic segment.

BTW...this volcano is costing Delta, alone, ten million bucks a day. OUCH!

I was very impressed with Delta for expanding their international legs during reorganization.

Do you know what the stop loss is on the insurance before it kicks in? The total losses to date are close to $2B with almost half of that attributed to the airlines. So, the insurance and reinsurance carriers will be reporting hefty losses this year as well.

 

[Beauty hunter]

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Neat!

Thats RAW BEAUTY
surreal
I feel bad for the wild animals
Travel thing sucks- I start cussin when I get behind a road construction truck on 30a
schedule whipped-the word wait is an antique
guess i'm a weenie

 

[Beach Runner]

The problem is that most of the transatlantic aircraft are twin engine aircraft, and they are given what is called an ETOPS rating which dictates how many minutes they can be from the nearest suitable runway. Our aircraft at Delta are all 180 minute aircraft (some are only 120 minutes). You really can't fly much further south across the Atlantic and still be within 3 hours of a runway. Aircraft with three and four engines are not bound by this and could fly a more southerly route, but they account for a smaller traffic segment.

BTW...this volcano is costing Delta, alone, ten million bucks a day. OUCH!

OUCH is right!

BTW hubby's customer suggested that they meet in Keykjavik, Iceland. That airport has been open the entire time.

 

[DuneLaker]

The problem is that most of the transatlantic aircraft are twin engine aircraft, and they are given what is called an ETOPS rating which dictates how many minutes they can be from the nearest suitable runway. Our aircraft at Delta are all 180 minute aircraft (some are only 120 minutes). You really can't fly much further south across the Atlantic and still be within 3 hours of a runway. Aircraft with three and four engines are not bound by this and could fly a more southerly route, but they account for a smaller traffic segment.

BTW...this volcano is costing Delta, alone, ten million bucks a day. OUCH!

That is really useful information, Mr. Singinchicken. Can you tell us what aircraft are big enough to fly the longer flight? That might help some schedule. I know when we were flying out of our volcano mess, we finally had to go from Seattle to Los Angeles and get on an L1011, I think. Does DELTA even fly those anymore? We didn't fly it because of flight path at that time. Traffic was just so backed up by that 6th day that they thought we'd have a better chance of getting to Atlanta and eventually SoWal at that point.

I am sorry about the cost losses. Have people been furloughed? Told not to come in to work?

 

[Lynnie]

That is really useful information, Mr. Singinchicken. Can you tell us what aircraft are big enough to fly the longer flight? That might help some schedule. I know when we were flying out of our volcano mess, we finally had to go from Seattle to Los Angeles and get on an L1011, I think. Does DELTA even fly those anymore? We didn't fly it because of flight path at that time. Traffic was just so backed up by that 6th day that they thought we'd have a better chance of getting to Atlanta and eventually SoWal at that point.

I am sorry about the cost losses. Have people been furloughed? Told not to come in to work?

In my experience, only the French do that. Except the employees will arbitrarily decide to furlough themselves. ARGH

 

[Will B]

That is really useful information, Mr. Singinchicken. Can you tell us what aircraft are big enough to fly the longer flight? That might help some schedule. I know when we were flying out of our volcano mess, we finally had to go from Seattle to Los Angeles and get on an L1011, I think. Does DELTA even fly those anymore? We didn't fly it because of flight path at that time. Traffic was just so backed up by that 6th day that they thought we'd have a better chance of getting to Atlanta and eventually SoWal at that point.

I am sorry about the cost losses. Have people been furloughed? Told not to come in to work?

Nah...nothing like that going on.

L1011's are gone. I don't think anybody flies them. The MD11's are all owned by World Airlines. They are a Military Charter mainstay. The only
DC10's that I ever see are all freighters. That effectively limits you to 747's. ETOPS does not apply to any aircraft with more than two engines. Fortunately, the reliability of engines has gotten to be amazingly good. The different ratings are based on the level of maintenance program that the airline has. 180 minutes is the highest.

So...that being said...they need to look for something with three or four engines....