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Furthur

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Jan 21, 2008
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OK, It's Official.
In his press club extravaganza the Rev. Wright Came Out and unconditionally praised the Communist regime in Nicaragua.
I rest my case: Black Liberation Theology is Marxist.
So B.O.'s "Mentor" is red. Now what does that make him if not a fellow traveler?
Please don't tell me that after 20 years that he didn't know. That is a ludicrous non-starter.
He joined up because he believed in Wright's politics.

So now it is time to ask yourself, are you ready for our first commie Commander in Chief?
Sorry I know that must pain those of you that have so much invested in this smooth talking snake oil salesman. But it is time to face the real world and the real world isn't pretty.

PS. to GW, You are right. It's not about religion, it is all about politics.
 

30A Skunkape

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OK, It's Official.
In his press club extravaganza the Rev. Wright Came Out and unconditionally praised the Communist regime in Nicaragua.
I rest my case: Black Liberation Theology is Marxist.
So B.O.'s "Mentor" is red. Now what does that make him if not a fellow traveler?
Please don't tell me that after 20 years that he didn't know. That is a ludicrous non-starter.
He joined up because he believed in Wright's politics.

So now it is time to ask yourself, are you ready for our first commie Commander in Chief?
Sorry I know that must pain those of you that have so much invested in this smooth talking snake oil salesman. But it is time to face the real world and the real world isn't pretty.

PS. to GW, You are right. It's not about religion, it is all about politics.

OK, here is his entire speech-please, cut and paste said praise because I sure don't see it:dunno:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-wrighttranscript-04282008,0,5339764,full.story
 

Geo

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Read it. Read it All!!!

OK, here is his entire speech-please, cut and paste said praise because I sure don't see it:dunno:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-wrighttranscript-04282008,0,5339764,full.story

OMG!

I just read the speech in its entirety...
:eek:

I find it shocking that-

1) Wright sounds to me like he has more sense than any of the candidates running

2) The media is apparently mischaracterizing this guy and can possibly (if not likely) end up influencing this election on this mischaracterization

3) Really sharp people are apparently reading the same text and drawing such drastically different conclusions (and then influencing others who will never read the text for themselves)---- Hi Further :wave:

Before you guys (regardless of your politics or preconceived notions) respond to me-

Please read the speech in its entirety. Don't fake it. Read it. Read it all...

2 cents and then some,

G
 
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STL Don

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Mar 7, 2005
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maybe Rev Wright is on the Clinton payroll.... :lol:

You may be right. Here is what a columnist in the St. Louis Post Dispatch said last week:

Hillary Clinton has just the right strategy ? for 2012
By Bill McClellan
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
04/25/2008

Bill McClellan
[More columns]
[Bill's Biography]

Sometimes you have to tip your hat to people you don't necessarily like, and I feel that way these days about the Clintons. Bill and Hillary are smarter than the rest of us. They're playing chess while we're playing checkers.

That's because we're looking ahead a couple of months. Who will get the nomination? Or we're looking toward November. Who will win the election?

The Clintons are several moves ahead of us. They're looking toward 2012.

It became clear a couple of months ago that Barack Obama was going to get the nomination. Given the way the delegates are allotted on a proportional basis rather than on a winner-take-all basis, Obama's lead became insurmountable during his winning streak. And there was never a realistic hope that the superdelegates would overrule the will of the voters. If they did, there would be chaos. The party would risk alienating its single most faithful bloc ? African-Americans.
So let's play chess. Let's look ahead. Let's assume that Obama wins the nomination. If you are the Clintons, what then?

You've got to hope that he loses the general election. If he wins in 2008, he'll run for re-election in 2012. That means the next chance for Hillary would be 2016. She'll be 69 by the time that election comes around. (She'll be 61 in October of this year.) Chances are, her time will have passed.

Also, the odds will be against the Democrat in 2016. This is true no matter how Obama does in 2012. If he were to win re-election, we would have had eight years of a Democrat in the White House. After eight years, people are usually ready for a change. Plus, there would be a vice president who might seek the nomination.

Things wouldn't be much better if Obama were to lose in 2012. That would mean that in 2016 the Democratic nominee would be facing an incumbent president, always a difficult task. The following election would probably favor the Democrats, but even chess players can't plan that many moves ahead. Besides, Hillary would be 73 by November of 2020.

So once it became clear that Obama would win the nomination, the only move left was to work toward his defeat in the general election.

Which is exactly what the Clintons have been doing, and doing with great success. Obama has lost most of the luster he had just a couple of months ago. Back then, he was a phenom, a force of nature. I remember when Caroline Kennedy personally handed him the crown once worn by her father. Obama inspires young people the way my father did, she said.

It was true, too. Young people were mesmerized. And not just young people. African-Americans and affluent whites. The well-educated flocked to the Obama banner.

How humiliating that must have been, how unfair that must have seemed. Hillary grew up in an affluent suburb. She went to Wellesley College, and in 1969 gave the commencement address, the first Wellesley student to do so. Then she went to Yale Law.

Now she was abandoned by her own kind and left with the working class. It's one thing to be the candidate of the working class if you're a Huey Long, somebody who has come from the masses himself. But to be one of the Best and Brightest and suddenly you're dependent upon the proletariat? That would sink most people.

But not Hillary. She became pro-gun, anti-trade. Her husband worked a seamier side of the street. He compared Obama to Jesse Jackson, and when people complained, Bill said he'd been the victim of a "mugging." When Obama supporters complained about the "racially charged language," Bill said they were playing the race card. Whenever anybody complained about the Clinton campaign going negative ? she and John McCain were ready for that 3 a.m. call, but not Obama, she said ? Hillary said it was nothing compared to what the Republicans would do in the general election.

By going negative, the Clintons got Obama to go negative, further tarnishing him. His chances in November become dimmer by the day.

Perhaps it's better, really, to lose this nomination. The economy is a train wreck. The boomers are about to retire. Iraq is going to fall apart no matter who gets elected. So let John McCain inherit the mess. After four years, the country will be ready for a change.

The Democrats will look to Hillary. Why didn't we nominate her back in 2008? What made us think that Obama ever had a chance?

She'll take on McCain. He'll be 76. She'll seem youthful, competent. The comeback kids will have done it again.

My hat is off to them.
 

Smiling JOe

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I'm still wondering why Rev Wright thinks that the US should apologize to the Continent of Africa for giving them AIDS.
 

Rita

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Rapunzel asked about this being a possible scenario many weeks ago. If this is the Clinton's "chess game", it speaks loudly as to how much they really care about our country. It would be all about them! (not totally unbelievable. :sosad:.)


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STL Don

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Rapunzel asked about this being a possible scenario many weeks ago. If this is the Clinton's "chess game", it speaks loudly as to how much they really care about our country. It would be all about them! (not totally unbelievable. :sosad:.)


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Not unbelievable at all!
 

Geo

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Dec 24, 2006
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I'm still wondering why Rev Wright thinks that the US should apologize to the Continent of Africa for giving them AIDS.

Huh? Did you hear him say this or hear about him saying this?

I am aware of Wright saying that the US should apologize for slavery. And I am aware of Wright saying the equivalent of- he wouldn't put it past the government to have created a deadly virus to harm people given the history of despicable things it has done. I am aware of him citing text to support these remarks.

But I am unaware of him saying that he thinks the US should apologize for giving AIDS to Africa.

Certainly you aren't referring to this speech? Let's see it, SJ. Cite your source so we can A) see that he said this and B) see it in context...

G
 
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