details, dahling.....
Items on the beach overnight
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details, dahling.....
Are they calling your office or another dept? Surely, they aren't reporting theft of goods which have been tagged.
The tags even have a "Case number" on them. Calling in to report their own breaking of the law sounds rather crazy. "Sheriff's Office."
"Yes, I'd like to report that our beach crap is missing from the beach."
"Where on the beach was it?" yada, yada, yada...
"I don't understand. We left it on the beach for five days and no one said anything."
"Did you see the warning tag on your crap?"
"We saw it, but didn't think they were serious. WTF?
""Sir, we will be more than happy to have you come to the station to collect your crap, but it will cost you. There will be a fine for littering the beach, and you have to pay to reinburse the County for storage of property and collection costs."
"
(Click. Phone hangs up quickly)."
Actually, it's very simple. "Please check with the Walton County TDC. They may be reached at 267-1216." 
I'd love to share stories of what people who get beach citations tell us, but for all I know, they might read SoWal. Then, there is also the matter of potentially getting fired. 
I'd love to share stories of what people who get beach citations tell us, but for all I know, they might read SoWal. Then, there is also the matter of potentially getting fired.
Grayt 
...hopefully you won't be sayin' that in your sleep b4 too long.
...hopefully you won't be sayin' that in your sleep b4 too long. 
Actually, it's very simple. "Please check with the Walton County TDC. They may be reached at 267-1216."
I'd love to share stories of what people who get beach citations tell us, but for all I know, they might read SoWal. Then, there is also the matter of potentially getting fired.
You know how to PM me, don't you? ;-)
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I was going to ask if there was a place that we could go "shopping" before the stuff is hauled to the landfill or wherever it is going! I would be happy to make a little donation to something in exchange for some really nice chairs.
All I know is...I am watching whoever you are (blue tent, red tent) on BMB...fair warning...I know people.
...maybe Habitat for Humanity's Restore could sell it and the proceeds could go to an affordable home for someone ....
After a few days of adhering to the tag and bag campaign and speaking to certain people "in the know" I see two glaring and huge loopholes that could cause this to move in slow motion.
The first, which everyone on this board seems to be aware of by now, is the simple fact there isn't enough manpower involved. Any given section of beach will only be inspected once a week at the current rate and I've heard the TDC has no plans to put any money into solving this. IMO, if a beach is scheduled for a Saturday tagging and that week's visitors arrive Saturday evening and hit the beach Sunday, then they've avoided that whole week's warning.
The second and more problematic issue is a tricky one. ONLY the sheriff's department is authorized to deem what is to be tagged and ONLY those items which have been tagged may be removed. Which means if the TDC truck comes around that morning 24 hrs. later to remove tagged items, TDC can only remove them if the tag is still there! The TDC guys have no authority to remove non-tagged items even if he suspects or knows it was tagged previously.
True, it is illegal to remove one of these tags without removing your gear with it as it has a case file, but really, could there be a bigger loophole than this? Perhaps they will someday soon ramp up the project to not include a warning, but I get the idea there are some legal hurdles there which is why the TDC currently can't and won't do just that.
Only solution I see is more manpower. Through money, jobs, volunteers, creative solutions, or a combination of all. I mean, we are talking about the very reason this place exists...da beach! You'd think interested parties would make sure, above all else, that beach ordinance enforcement was job 1 instead of job whenever-we-get-to-it.
Again, it is week 1 and as SJ and others have said, lets give it a chance and not get too worked up just because you read this thread as of last week. This has been a debate for years not days so lets keep some perspective.
I just wanted to update y'all on what my personal hands and ears-on experience this week has yielded.
And you people with the tents, quit gettin' up so dang early to drop your frames on the ground and running back to bed. It's pretty comical actually. 
The first, which everyone on this board seems to be aware of by now, is the simple fact there isn't enough manpower involved. Any given section of beach will only be inspected once a week at the current rate and I've heard the TDC has no plans to put any money into solving this. IMO, if a beach is scheduled for a Saturday tagging and that week's visitors arrive Saturday evening and hit the beach Sunday, then they've avoided that whole week's warning.
The second and more problematic issue is a tricky one. ONLY the sheriff's department is authorized to deem what is to be tagged and ONLY those items which have been tagged may be removed. Which means if the TDC truck comes around that morning 24 hrs. later to remove tagged items, TDC can only remove them if the tag is still there! The TDC guys have no authority to remove non-tagged items even if he suspects or knows it was tagged previously.
True, it is illegal to remove one of these tags without removing your gear with it as it has a case file, but really, could there be a bigger loophole than this? Perhaps they will someday soon ramp up the project to not include a warning, but I get the idea there are some legal hurdles there which is why the TDC currently can't and won't do just that.
Only solution I see is more manpower. Through money, jobs, volunteers, creative solutions, or a combination of all. I mean, we are talking about the very reason this place exists...da beach! You'd think interested parties would make sure, above all else, that beach ordinance enforcement was job 1 instead of job whenever-we-get-to-it.
Again, it is week 1 and as SJ and others have said, lets give it a chance and not get too worked up just because you read this thread as of last week. This has been a debate for years not days so lets keep some perspective.
I just wanted to update y'all on what my personal hands and ears-on experience this week has yielded.
And you people with the tents, quit gettin' up so dang early to drop your frames on the ground and running back to bed.
It's pretty comical actually.