Items on the beach overnight

[Caroling]

So...

Will there be a 2nd (and ongoing) round of tagging? There's almost as much stuff at the Ramsgate and Eastern Lake walkovers today as there was before the tagging and collection last week. And not a tag in sight.

If Sheriff and TDC are using the same schedule as last week, tagging should have been Saturday night and pickup should have been this morning. If you walked before pickup and didn't see any tags, that's bad news. Or at least weird. Did all these new tents come on Sunday? If you walked after pickup and saw a lot of stuff left, that's bad news too. Looks like it is not working. That is sad and maddening.

It is interesting to look for fresh tire marks. Last week after tagging I saw Sheriff tire marks going right past existing tents, with no footprints and no tags. I could see where they stopped and walked over to place tags. We should start a "keeping them honest" campaign. We could carefully document where the system is not working, report that to the responsible agency. If they don't respond positively with a reasonable excuse or promise to do better, we could escalate it in some way. I think the more specific we can be and the clearer our publicity, they more likely we are to be effective.

What are the steps in observing the process?
1. Follow the sheriff ASAP after tagging. Note what is tagged and what is not. Say just before dawn on Sunday morning for zone 7.

2. Precede the TDC before pickup, say Sunday night or before dawn Monday morning.
Note if what was tagged was removed or is still there. If there is it still tagged? If it had not been tagged originally is it still there? Is there new untagged stuff?

3. Follow the TDC trucks. Not sure how many or when they all start. Think it is quite soon after dawn on Monday and there are more than one and they have different tasks. Maybe they are done by noon? Check then and see if they got all tagged items. Also check to see if they removed everything within 10 feet of each trash bag.

One idea would be to observe the actual trucks at a particular point, say at the start of their zone, to see exactly what they do or don't do and maybe approach and talk to them about it on the spot.

Are we having fun yet?

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[Miss Kitty]

Thanks caroling. You really lower my stress level, even though it is clear things are still not working efficiently.

 

[ozbeachmom]

My son and daughter just returned from our condo and they said that they were walking on the beach the other night and watched a sheriff's truck pull up to a tent. They were watching to see if they put a tag on it, but no luck they said he got back in his truck and drove on...??

They also said that it was amazing how much trash they collected on their walks at night. Beer cans floating in the water ect.

It makes me so mad that people are not respecting mother nature.. I just want to find out were these people live and go dump crap in their front yards.

 

[JB]

One question from someone who doesn't have time to read all 500+ posts in this thread: Suppose someone rents a gulf front house for one week and makes arrangements with a beach service company to provide one umbrella and two chairs for the duration of their stay.

I have done this in the past and the umbrella and chairs are in place the day I arrive and stay there until we leave. They are not collected each evening and put out again each morning. Will the beach service companies now be forced to pick up and deliver each day? If so, I would think this would drive the price up dramatically and also cause serious manpower issues for these companies.

 

[SHELLY]

IMO this "tagging" is a bunch of crap! It is an administrative nightmare that local law enforcement shouldn't have to deal with and it's going to be the first thing to go as the county cuts back the budget due to "Sorry Charlie's" tax rollback.

Slap some signs on the beach (like the "no trespassing signs" that are springing up all over) that read, "Anything left unattended on the beach at sunset will be taken to the dump."

Somehow I don't see this situation getting any better if drastic steps aren't taken every night to clean up this mess.


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[Mango]

IMO this "tagging" is a bunch of crap! It is an administrative nightmare that local law enforcement shouldn't have to deal with and it's going to be the first thing to go as the county cuts back the budget due to "Sorry Charlie's" tax rollback.

Slap some signs on the beach (like the "no trespassing signs" that are springing up all over) that read, "Anything left unattended on the beach at sunset will be taken to the dump."

Somehow I don't see this situation getting any better if drastic steps aren't taken every night to clean up this mess.


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I think a more effective sign would be one with an E-bay logo and underneath a link to the TDC.

"Here is what is available from last nights haul for purchase from items left on the beach. New items auction begins at sundown. "

 

[Miss Kitty]

IMO this "tagging" is a bunch of crap! It is an administrative nightmare that local law enforcement shouldn't have to deal with and it's going to be the first thing to go as the county cuts back the budget due to "Sorry Charlie's" tax rollback.

Slap some signs on the beach (like the "no trespassing signs" that are springing up all over) that read, "Anything left unattended on the beach at sunset will be taken to the dump."

Somehow I don't see this situation getting any better if drastic steps aren't taken every night to clean up this mess.


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I certainly agree with you SHELL, but remember..."we don't want to upset the visitors", although I know property owners are violtators as well. I'll see about someone making some stickers that say that for me when I get down there in October. There won't be as much CRAP then, but it's a start.

 

[SGB]

Met some people in Dune Allen on Saturday night that told me they put their beach gear under the public walkover. The next morning their stuff was gone from next to the walkover, but tents and chairs on the beach itself were just tagged. They went dumpster diving to try and find their stuff, but only found a boogie board and one chair.

 

[TreeFrog]

Did all these new tents come on Sunday? If you walked after pickup and saw a lot of stuff left, that's bad news too.

It is interesting to look for fresh tire marks.

This morning at 7:00 AM was the first time I've been to the beach since Friday a week ago, so I don't know when the stuff was put out or if it was tagged at some point. I didn't see any tags out there this AM.

No tire tracks, just lotsa footprints.

IMHO, any tagging/pickup cycle that overlaps Saturday is probably a dud. You don't know whether you're getting the outgoing or incoming visitors. Tag Sunday AM through Wednesday PM , remove through Friday PM.

 

[BeachSiO2]

I certainly agree with you SHELL, but remember..."we don't want to upset the visitors", although I know property owners are violtators as well. I'll see about someone making some stickers that say that for me when I get down there in October. There won't be as much CRAP then, but it's a start.

Met some people in Dune Allen on Saturday night that told me they put their beach gear under the public walkover. The next morning their stuff was gone from next to the walkover, but tents and chairs on the beach itself were just tagged. They went dumpster diving to try and find their stuff, but only found a boogie board and one chair.

Looks like they don't mind upsetting the visitors if they leave stuff under or next to the public walkovers.