I've kept my mouth shut, but can't take it anymore
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"One last thing- you should really consider alternative news/information sources." I will gladly give you the benefit of the doubt, if you will give me the same. Instead of assuming that I use only one-sided sources for my information, I would appreciate it if you would respect me and my opinions by understanding that those with conservatives views do look at issues from every side by using a wide variety of sources. I gather information and then make a determination on issues based on what I think is right. To encourage me to use alternative news, assumes that I do not, and by saying that, you are being condescending by implying that your views are more enlightened and informed than mine because you use those sources.
Warning: The following comment is not meant to be condescending, trite, or rude, however without tone of voice it could appear that way. It is meant as an honest and purely thought provoking comment.
I'm honestly curious what other sources you use?
You quoted me before my last edit. Here is what I said since then-
Perhaps I would not have made any assumptions if you would have posted a link to the Meet the Press interview so we could see/hear Valerie use the word "rule" and judge for ourselves.
I go out of my way to be fair, CCK. Here is an example to prove this to you-
If it was 2000 and a dem advanced the thesis that they wanted to give GW a chance but they "can't take it anymore" because of all of the following disturbing signs that he is starting to sound like a dictator:
- One of Bush's advisors called him the decider or said he was going to be ready to rule
- A dozen hard core supporters in Texas wanted to prematurely have a national holiday in his name
- His campaign thought it was a good idea to hang onto their donor list
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Yes. And I referred to it (by comparison) in my post...
If it was 2000 and a dem advanced the thesis that they wanted to give GW a chance but they "can't take it anymore" because of all of the following disturbing signs:
I would tell them the same thing I told you about Obama- that their filters are not allowing them to truly give GW a chance. Furthermore, if they embedded a link to a far left biased blog that draws kooky conclusions I would suggest to them that they consider alternative news and info sources...
- One of Bush's advisors called him the decider or said he was going to be ready to rule
- A dozen hard core supporters in Texas wanted to prematurely have a national holiday in his name
- His campaign thought it was a good idea to hang onto their donor list
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CCKid. I am interested in all your thoughts , as a supporter of Obama I want him to do a great job and succeed---AND I want the people (and Sowallers) that didn't vote for him to chime in with valid criticism when and where necessary--which you did. Good for you.
I want to hear your thoughts, hopefully, without the bashing on either side of the issue. The election is over--I say less bashing and more posting from you!
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[/QUOTE]If it was 2000 and a dem advanced the thesis that they wanted to give GW a chance but they "can't take it anymore" because of all of the following disturbing signs:
I would tell them the same thing I told you about Obama- that their filters are not allowing them to truly give GW a chance. Furthermore, if they embedded a link to a far left biased blog that draws kooky conclusions I would suggest to them that they consider alternative news and info sources...
- One of Bush's advisors called him the decider or said he was going to be ready to rule
- A dozen hard core supporters in Texas wanted to prematurely have a national holiday in his name
- His campaign thought it was a good idea to hang onto their donor list
Sorry I'm not a You-Tube guru and don't know how to imbed videos. I got to the site through a link from the Drudge Report and have never visited the blog site before. But this is all a distraction from the point that the video exists. If you don't want to access it from my link, go to You-Tube and you'll find it there. You stick to your kooky liberals sources and I'll stick to my kooky conservative sources ;-).
What I "can't take anymore" is not speaking my mind on SoWal. If those of you who are left of center want to have meaningful debates, all sides must be respected. I decided several weeks ago to "just let it go" because I have a really busy life in the real world. However, I just feel a need to pop in now and then and give all of you left of center folks a reality check. Not everyone agrees with you. You may not have noticed that most conservatives who have posted on SoWal have given up. It is not because they have abandoned their values. It is because it is not worth the time and anguish to do so on SoWal.
I have a very good friend who started a thread about an innocent question that she had about Obama. She had no hidden agenda, yet she was viciously attacked to the point that she was in tears. She has vowed to never again log on to SoWal. That is sad for you because you will miss out on her insightful comments. It is hard not to get caught up in debates on SoWal, but it is very difficult to debate online because so much of our communication methods (body language, intonation, etc.,) don't come across online. My friend was very hurt by people that she knows in the community. It used to be that nobody SoWal knew each other. It is no longer an anonymous community and many of us know each other in the real world. Somehow though, when discussing politics online, some posters don't care who they hurt and denigrate and don't care that they know the person in the real world. These same people would never have said these things to my friend's face, but somehow being online provides a false buffer. Although SoWal is a virtual community, my friend has real feelings. Does this behavior reflect on the attitude of the Democrat party toward those who disagree with their platform? Sometimes I fear that it does. The behavior of many in this forum support my fears.
I really want the next president to be successful because we need it right now. I will support Obama until he gives me reason not to, and in the meantime I will be watching him very carefully. Everything that he does and says between now and Jan. 20 will be a foreshadowing of the type of Administration that he will run.
Obama is not trying to please me and he couldn't care less about what I and other conservatives want. In spite of his claim that he will be everyone's president, he has already shown the typical partisanship that was expected. In a way that disappoints me because I really could believe in him if he would show that he is in this for the good of our country and not to just progress the liberal agenda. And yes, there are those who think the liberal agenda is for the good of our country, but almost 1/2 of Americans disagree.
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I'm sorry your friend had her feelings hurt. I agree that the politics forum can get heated and that this is a cold medium. But regardless, I do not feel I am treating you or anyone unfairly. I'm glad you are back to posting. I hope you don't stop...
Below is the portion of the transcript from the Meet the Press interview that was referenced in your original post.
Your point (correct me if I am wrong) is that you are trying to give an Obama presidency a chance but that the comments made in the interview are one of many disturbing signs that Obama sounds like a dictator...
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MR. BROKAW: Let's begin by talking about the transition. What are the priorities during this transition time for your team and how you work through the many challenges that are ahead of you?
MS. JARRETT: Well, we hit the ground running first thing Wednesday. Wednesday, President-elect Obama--it feels so good to say President-elect Obama--pulled together our team and we began to lay out the framework for how we want to move forward. As you would expect, both the economy and national security are top priorities. Friday, President-elect Obama brought in his advisers--people such as Paul Volcker and Bob Rubin, Governor Granholm, Mayor Villaraigosa from Los Angeles--trying to bring together a group of people--Warren Buffett--to help focus on the economy. So we will be looking to be efficient transparent, bipartisan. We want the American people to understand the transition and how we're moving forward. And in the days and weeks ahead, President-elect Obama will be making announcements as he makes decisions.
MR. BROKAW: What's the working model? Are you going to try to be a shadow government or just a very interested spectator off to the side?
MS. JARRETT: Well, it's a good question. There is one president at a time. President Bush is still the president. He's graciously invited President-elect Obama to the White House tomorrow to begin their conversations of the transition. So we respect that. He will be the president until January 20th. However, giving--given, really, the daunting challenges that we face, it's important that President-elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one. So we will be working closely with his administration. We're reviewing the agencies now. He will be making key personnel decisions. He gets national security briefings every day now as well, but he will not be the president until January 20th.
Below is the portion of the transcript from the Meet the Press interview that was referenced in your original post.
Your point (correct me if I am wrong) is that you are trying to give an Obama presidency a chance but that the comments made in the interview are one of many disturbing signs that Obama sounds like a dictator...
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MR. BROKAW: Let's begin by talking about the transition. What are the priorities during this transition time for your team and how you work through the many challenges that are ahead of you?
MS. JARRETT: Well, we hit the ground running first thing Wednesday. Wednesday, President-elect Obama--it feels so good to say President-elect Obama--pulled together our team and we began to lay out the framework for how we want to move forward. As you would expect, both the economy and national security are top priorities. Friday, President-elect Obama brought in his advisers--people such as Paul Volcker and Bob Rubin, Governor Granholm, Mayor Villaraigosa from Los Angeles--trying to bring together a group of people--Warren Buffett--to help focus on the economy. So we will be looking to be efficient transparent, bipartisan. We want the American people to understand the transition and how we're moving forward. And in the days and weeks ahead, President-elect Obama will be making announcements as he makes decisions.
MR. BROKAW: What's the working model? Are you going to try to be a shadow government or just a very interested spectator off to the side?
MS. JARRETT: Well, it's a good question. There is one president at a time. President Bush is still the president. He's graciously invited President-elect Obama to the White House tomorrow to begin their conversations of the transition. So we respect that. He will be the president until January 20th. However, giving--given, really, the daunting challenges that we face, it's important that President-elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one. So we will be working closely with his administration. We're reviewing the agencies now. He will be making key personnel decisions. He gets national security briefings every day now as well, but he will not be the president until January 20th.
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