graytonrbust said:
Same here. I remember being terrified of the dunes because of the sand spurs. OUCH! Maybe we could cover them with those things and people would stay out.
Keep Off The Dunes
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Same here. I remember being terrified of the dunes because of the sand spurs. OUCH! Maybe we could cover them with those things and people would stay out.
I guess I have to vent a little also. I am reading all of the comments about the dunes. I am a home owner on Santa Rosa Beach. My wife has been going to the same beach since she was born. I have been going there for about 20 years. I?ve seen beaches all over the country and there are none quite a beautiful as our area. That makes me want to preserve them more. I see all the suggestions on the education we need to provide to our owners and visitors but what about the rebuild. I truly do not know if we are allowed to plant anything on the dunes but I sure would like to know.
Are we allowed to plant more sea oats or is this too delicate to do. We know we need to educate people but what else past that can we do. Can we help the county put up signs too? They may not work for everyone but if we can stop some of them it would help.
My wife and I plan to move down soon and sure would like to help this campaign. We are planning on packing up our live and take the big jump to this community. Hopefully there will be some jobs for a computer geek like me when I get there. What can we do to help when we get there?
J&A
Are we allowed to plant more sea oats or is this too delicate to do. We know we need to educate people but what else past that can we do. Can we help the county put up signs too? They may not work for everyone but if we can stop some of them it would help.
My wife and I plan to move down soon and sure would like to help this campaign. We are planning on packing up our live and take the big jump to this community. Hopefully there will be some jobs for a computer geek like me when I get there. What can we do to help when we get there?
J&A
We just returned home after a lovely week in Seagrove. However, before some of you cast umbridge at the tourists, --let me report what Mr. Newyorker and I saw as we walked the beach (NOT the dunes) between Seagrove and Seaside.
One ofthe lovely houses overlooking the beach (with no beach access via stairs nearby) had set up a ladder from the railing over house's deck, then a long rope attached to the railing, where people rappled down the fragile face of the cliff (one woman in a bikini, even--I wondered about rope burn!) We saw them accessing the beach several times this way over the course of the week. I don't know, of course, whether the people staying in this house were owners or renters, but I'm presuming that this method of accessing the beach had the approval of the owner, regardless.
I was rather astonished, to stay the least--after the concern in this forum over dune preservation. The families I saw were usually very observant of the need to stay away from the dunes, and I spoke to one father near Seagrove place where the kids were playing in the dunes--he immediately asked his kids to get off the dunes, and explained to them about the erosion issue.
We tourists love the beach, and most of us will work hard to keep the beaches for next time. Its not helpful seeing what has the appearance of homeowner-sanctioned violation of this dictum.
One ofthe lovely houses overlooking the beach (with no beach access via stairs nearby) had set up a ladder from the railing over house's deck, then a long rope attached to the railing, where people rappled down the fragile face of the cliff (one woman in a bikini, even--I wondered about rope burn!) We saw them accessing the beach several times this way over the course of the week. I don't know, of course, whether the people staying in this house were owners or renters, but I'm presuming that this method of accessing the beach had the approval of the owner, regardless.
I was rather astonished, to stay the least--after the concern in this forum over dune preservation. The families I saw were usually very observant of the need to stay away from the dunes, and I spoke to one father near Seagrove place where the kids were playing in the dunes--he immediately asked his kids to get off the dunes, and explained to them about the erosion issue.
We tourists love the beach, and most of us will work hard to keep the beaches for next time. Its not helpful seeing what has the appearance of homeowner-sanctioned violation of this dictum.
Oh Newyorker...not to worry! I would never direct my fury at just the "vacationers" to the area. I don't think I could pick a vacationer out of a line up. So don't worry...I don't discriminate when it comes to flagrant idiocy on the beach. I'd tell the Pope to get off the dunes!
If you ask people to come visit the beach and spend lots of money there going to get down on the beach anyway thay can and if everyone else is cutting through the dunes why not? Maybe if there are no public walkovers the beaches should be closed. Or fix the dunes later.
EZ4144 said:
We don't fix dunes - nature does and it takes years - yes we can possibly (the jury is still out on this) help - but this is a long time process - years and years. To quote my mother - just because everyone else is doing - doesn't make it right.
EZ4144 said:
If you like the beach, stay off the dunes or the beach will not be there when you return. Period. Take it or leave it.
hi
i'd just like to clarify a couple of things because i don't want you to misunderstand me. i love grayton and yes, i'm a tourist when i visit.
but i do follow the rules and try to leave nature just as i found it.
we usually rent the walker house, and don't use the path through the dunes to get to the beach - we do use the public beach access by t-time. Occassionally on a walk, alone, enjoying the beautiful scenary, i have walked through that dune area(not on the dune, but in between them) -i did not intentionally mean to be breaking any rules, as i personally thought that "stay of the dunes" sign meant to stay off of the actual mound. It was only through reading this thread that I learned differently.
I'm not offended that the locals want to preserve the beauty of the area - i think it's great. I think that that type of love of nature and care for the community is what may possibly keep grayton from becoming, say, the next Gulf Shores/Orange Beach. I remember going to Gulf Shores as a child and seeing hundred's of sand dunes. my father taught us not to climb them and not to pick the sea oats. unfortunately, it didn't matter in the end because huge condos went up where the dunes once were.
anyway - please don't label me as a tourist that doesn't care. I really do, I was just wrong in assuming it was ok to walk between the dunes.
reece
i'd just like to clarify a couple of things because i don't want you to misunderstand me. i love grayton and yes, i'm a tourist when i visit.
but i do follow the rules and try to leave nature just as i found it.
we usually rent the walker house, and don't use the path through the dunes to get to the beach - we do use the public beach access by t-time. Occassionally on a walk, alone, enjoying the beautiful scenary, i have walked through that dune area(not on the dune, but in between them) -i did not intentionally mean to be breaking any rules, as i personally thought that "stay of the dunes" sign meant to stay off of the actual mound. It was only through reading this thread that I learned differently.
I'm not offended that the locals want to preserve the beauty of the area - i think it's great. I think that that type of love of nature and care for the community is what may possibly keep grayton from becoming, say, the next Gulf Shores/Orange Beach. I remember going to Gulf Shores as a child and seeing hundred's of sand dunes. my father taught us not to climb them and not to pick the sea oats. unfortunately, it didn't matter in the end because huge condos went up where the dunes once were.
anyway - please don't label me as a tourist that doesn't care. I really do, I was just wrong in assuming it was ok to walk between the dunes.
reece
EZ4144 said:
Excuse me for being so blunt, but that is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on any of these threads.
We always welcome visitors, guests, etc., to the area, but we'd rather have folks with your attitude stay home. You need to read up on dunes, what they are, how they are formed, etc. before you make a comment such as the one above. You sound like the same type of nightmare renter who assumes that since you're paying a rental fee to stay in someone's home, you have a right to tear up or take whatever you like. Any why should the beaches be closed when most folks appreciate the beautiful beaches and will look for the nearest access (yes, sometimes you may have to drive or walk a little until things are back to normal!) rather than tear up what it took nature years to build?!
Personally, I'd rather you stay home and spend your money elsewhere! The few tourist $$$ you bring to the area are nothing compared to the amount of damage you inflict. I understand there are those who don't understand dunes and innocently walk on them. Most of these folks will get off as soon as they are informed. But people like you who KNOW the damage that you do but just don't care....do it because "everyone else is cutting through the dunes why not?"
Thankfully, most visitors to the area are thoughtful, considerate, friendly and in awe of the beauty. Unless you change your attitude, for the sake of all who enjoy the beauty of South Walton beaches and the awesome dunes....PLEASE STAY AWAY!!
luvthebeach said:Excuse me for being so blunt, but that is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on any of these threads.
We always welcome visitors, guests, etc., to the area, but we'd rather have folks with your attitude stay home. You need to read up on dunes, what they are, how they are formed, etc. before you make a comment such as the one above. You sound like the same type of nightmare renter who assumes that since you're paying a rental fee to stay in someone's home, you have a right to tear up or take whatever you like. Any why should the beaches be closed when most folks appreciate the beautiful beaches and will look for the nearest access (yes, sometimes you may have to drive or walk a little until things are back to normal!) rather than tear up what it took nature years to build?!
Personally, I'd rather you stay home and spend your money elsewhere! The few tourist $$$ you bring to the area are nothing compared to the amount of damage you inflict. I understand there are those who don't understand dunes and innocently walk on them. Most of these folks will get off as soon as they are informed. But people like you who KNOW the damage that you do but just don't care....do it because "everyone else is cutting through the dunes why not?"
Thankfully, most visitors to the area are thoughtful, considerate, friendly and in awe of the beauty. Unless you change your attitude, for the sake of all who enjoy the beauty of South Walton beaches and the awesome dunes....PLEASE STAY AWAY!!
THANKS...I couldn't even type after I read that!