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Bob

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Nov 16, 2004
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I'm betting the 4th grader in Shanghai probably has more money saved in her piggy bank than many of the U.S. HELOC Slaves.

....call it tough love.

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We need those HELOC checks to buy all those 69.99 bikes and 29.99 DVD players that make us "happy".
 

SHELLY

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We need those HELOC checks to buy all those 69.99 bikes and 29.99 DVD players that make us "happy".

Not to mention the 50" plasma tvs, Hummers and--soon--$600 iPhones!!

Happy, happy, joy, joy....happy, happy, Joy!


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scooterbug44

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Its amazing that Walmarts critics usually are the people who actually need their low costs the most. If their competitors had as good a business model as Walmart, there would be no criticism of Walmart; they dont have such a business model. I would think that if Walmart can save us money on our mortgage, I would be the first one in line to apply for their service.
This would be a wonderful thing if it happens, this company actually increases the average guys standard of living. Their lower prices cancel out gasolines higher prices so we dont have much inflation, and thats a good thing.
The Walmart business model is to make money selling you cheap products (often at prices they set just to drive their competition out of business), regardless of what it does to the community or economy.

Unlike Henry Ford wanting to build a car his workers can afford, Walmart does not increase the average guys standard of living. The average worker at Walmart makes $18,000 and does not have benefits, insurance, or the ability to afford most of the things they sell, even at those prices you love.

Walmart can't sell you things at those low-low prices while paying for goods made in the USA or a living wage for their employees. You sell part of your soul every time you shop at Walmart - hope that cheap plasma TV was worth it!
 

Rambunkscious

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Jan 17, 2007
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The "average guy" is not a walmart employee. The "average guy" is a walmart customer. Please advise how if I pay less for walmart goods than I pay anywhere else, how is this not improving my living standard? As for as the origin of these products, they are ALL made in China, no matter where you
purchase them.

Walmart will be in home loans eventually. It appears to be a problem for some of the people on this board and I am wondering why. About the only adverse posts here reflect to "the loan applications will be taken from some China person" or go there and get your mortgage and get your condoms while you wait on aisle 7. This is cute but drivel.

Why are these people objecting to walmart mortgages? I'll bet they are in the mortgage broker business? If so, I completely understand their grief.
 

Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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The "average guy" is not a walmart employee. The "average guy" is a walmart customer. Please advise how if I pay less for walmart goods than I pay anywhere else, how is this not improving my living standard? As for as the origin of these products, they are ALL made in China, no matter where you
purchase them.

Walmart will be in home loans eventually. It appears to be a problem for some of the people on this board and I am wondering why. About the only adverse posts here reflect to "the loan applications will be taken from some China person" or go there and get your mortgage and get your condoms while you wait on aisle 7. This is cute but drivel.

Why are these people objecting to walmart mortgages? I'll bet they are in the mortgage broker business? If so, I completely understand their grief.

Let me be a little clearer. I own a mortgage brokerage and have been in the business for 20 years. The Walmarts and the Pricelines of the world offering mortgages have never caused me personally any grief. I do not consider them to be competition.

You are comparing a business model for goods (vacuum cleaners etc) with offering financial services. This is a totally different animal altogether.
Negotiating a goods price for a national chain is not the same as negotiating prices on mortgages. I don't have the time to explain to you how Pricing works in the secondary mortgage market, but trust me, it won't be anything to write home about if indeed they are able to get decent pricing initially based on their bond ratings.

Further after witnessing the subprime debacle,
I do not believe Walmart will be able to meet the needs of most of their clients. This attached article clearly shows the typical regular Walmart customer.

Much of the company's customer base is the "unbanked" or "underbanked" group of the U.S. population that has little or no access to banking services. And, that is what makes the decision seem so queer. With the current considerable problems of sub-prime lending, it is hard to imagine how a company like Wal-Mart would be able to screen credit risk better than banks and mortgage loan companies.

In lieu of the mortgage business, I would have prefered to see Federal Regulators allow them the Charter for Banking. I think they were too rash in their decision. I do not think it would have hurt small banks as much as they imagined. Perhaps a minute percentage of the unbanked population would have opened checking and savings accounts which would have been beneficial to our economy.
Save $50 on that plasma screen TV and then stash the money for their next purchase. But I do no think the average Wal-mart shopper thinks in those terms.
 

Rita

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Dec 1, 2004
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I can see them wanting the check cashing/paycheck advances type business.
They would likely compete strongly with the established businesses of that type.

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kathydwells

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Dec 20, 2004
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Heard on the news this morning. Walmart employees will no longer be wearing the blue aprons. They are trying to create a "professional atmosphere", and lure other "customers" into the store. Each employee will be given 2 polo shirts. They have to buy their own khaki pants. HMMMMMM.....doesn't Target employees dress in red polo's and Khaki pants?

Just thought I would share that bit of info.
 

Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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Heard on the news this morning. Walmart employees will no longer be wearing the blue aprons. They are trying to create a "professional atmosphere", and lure other "customers" into the store. Each employee will be given 2 polo shirts. They have to buy their own khaki pants. HMMMMMM.....doesn't Target employees dress in red polo's and Khaki pants?

Just thought I would share that bit of info.

They could be wearing Santa Suits and I still wouldn't try to brave the crowds in that store. :lol:
 

Bob

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Nov 16, 2004
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The "average guy" is not a walmart employee. The "average guy" is a walmart customer. Please advise how if I pay less for walmart goods than I pay anywhere else, how is this not improving my living standard? As for as the origin of these products, they are ALL made in China, no matter where you
purchase them.

Walmart will be in home loans eventually. It appears to be a problem for some of the people on this board and I am wondering why. About the only adverse posts here reflect to "the loan applications will be taken from some China person" or go there and get your mortgage and get your condoms while you wait on aisle 7. This is cute but drivel.

Why are these people objecting to walmart mortgages? I'll bet they are in the mortgage broker business? If so, I completely understand their grief.
You need to get your application in to Kurt. Tell him you want the Bentonville pay option ARM. With every mortgage, the borrower gets a new American flag made in China. Regarding Wal Mart, if you can't see a company that is helping eviscerate our manufacturing base, killing local small business, and not paying their employees a living wage, then I suspect you may own their stock. WalMart is not what Sam Walton wanted it to become. It, like other stupid American corporations has a twisted business model..... Profit at the expense of community.
 

Rita

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Dec 1, 2004
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You need to get your application in to Kurt. Tell him you want the Bentonville pay option ARM. With every mortgage, the borrower gets a new American flag made in China. Regarding Wal Mart, if you can't see a company that is helping eviscerate our manufacturing base, killing local small business, and not paying their employees a living wage, then I suspect you may own their stock. WalMart is not what Sam Walton wanted it to become. It, like other stupid American corporations has a twisted business model..... Profit at the expense of community.

Agreed ... In the small town where I grew up, people now have to drive 15 minutes to get what they used to be able to just go in town and buy (often able to walk) Many towns/ mom & pops across the country have suffered. Part of the problem was/is that some customers didn't/don't continue to support them because the prices are a bit higher.

What is most irritating is the customers who get the knowledgable service and information on a product from a mom & pop store, then go to Walmart to make their purchase. :sosad: :angry:

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