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scooterbug44

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I think Sam Walton had a great idea and was a great businessman. He would not like what his vision and empire have turned into IMO.
 

DuneAHH

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Sam Walton had a vision. He pursued his vision. He made a lot of money for himself and his family. Isn't that what all of us strive to do? Given the opportunity, would not all of us like to have the kind of money that this man had/and his family has? I would. He started a business. That business meets the needs of many, many people who "choose" to shop there. Now, would I get a mortgage from Walmart? Probably not...I hope I never have another mortgage, unless of course I make those millions someday and can buy me a beach house. :cool: I am just saying that the Walmart bashers out there, I am sure would love to have started that business and succeeded as well as Sam Walton did. IMHO!!!!

I agree :clap:.
 

kathydwells

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I think Sam Walton had a great idea and was a great businessman. He would not like what his vision and empire have turned into IMO.

Exactly what has his vision and empire turned into that he would not have liked?

Is it not every businesses desire to be the best at what they do? Isn't that why businesses are started everyday? To be the best, to make the most money? I mean, why start and continue a business if it is not your desire to be the #1 business. :dunno:
 

Miss Kitty

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I agree :clap:.

Just a thought Dune-AHH...you are up so early that you could go to the 24 hour Walmart and shop til you drop!!! :D

never mind D-A, I was confused with the time.
 
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scooterbug44

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Exactly what has his vision and empire turned into that he would not have liked?

Is it not every businesses desire to be the best at what they do? Isn't that why businesses are started everyday? To be the best, to make the most money? I mean, why start and continue a business if it is not your desire to be the #1 business. :dunno:

Walmart is a parasite. I am firmly convinced it will eventually destroy this country and the american way of life. You can shop there and use whatever services they provide, but I feel the overall cost of doing business with them is too much to pay for the instant and temporary gratification of low prices.

Walmart is certainly the best at what they do - paving over acres of land, building giant warehouse stores, abusing their employees, destroying communities, driving their competitors out of business and into the ground, and eliminating customer service and quality.

I don't think how much money a company makes means it is the best anymore than ones bank account is a measure of how good of a person you are. HOW they make that money and the long term effects also need to be considered.
 

DuneAHH

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Just a thought Dune-AHH...you are up so early that you could go to the 24 hour Walmart and shop til you drop!!! :D

Actually...I'm just up so LATE that it "appears" EARLY! I'm a total dud when it comes to shopping ... Spent TOO MANY years in retail doing competitive shopping for work. These days I "drop" before I get out of the driveway!
I'd rather ...
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reorganize my sock drawer than shop. ;-)
 

Bob

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Sorry Mango, I completely understand and agree with most of your points.
Simply stated, this is what the future will be. It will help many of us and our friends. There have been many studies on the subject of whether walmart helps or hurts the public, I think all these studies conclude that walmart helps the public. It hurts however the small merchant or businessman who happens to be in their growing number of businesses, you simply cannot compete with them and this is sad.

I wish you good luck in your business, the human and personal effect is something walmart cannot compete with either. And some people are not as sensitive to the bottom line as me.
Yes, put all your faith in one gigantic, enormous company that will serve all your needs. Where have we down this road before?
 

Bob

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Sam Walton had a vision. He pursued his vision. He made a lot of money for himself and his family. Isn't that what all of us strive to do? Given the opportunity, would not all of us like to have the kind of money that this man had/and his family has? I would. He started a business. That business meets the needs of many, many people who "choose" to shop there. Now, would I get a mortgage from Walmart? Probably not...I hope I never have another mortgage, unless of course I make those millions someday and can buy me a beach house. :cool: I am just saying that the Walmart bashers out there, I am sure would love to have started that business and succeeded as well as Sam Walton did. IMHO!!!!
That's like saying today's America is George Washington's baby. Sam Walton, were he around now, would clean house and put this country as the primary source of product. It makes sense in the long run. It about doing what's right for your country.
 

Rambunkscious

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Bob, stuff made in this country costs at least twice as much as stuff made in China. Much of the stuff made in this country is not twice or even as good as stuff made in China. If I were to buy stuff made in this country, I would have to have two jobs just to break even. Is this what you propose? I hope not, because if it is, this is not a groundswell for you.
 

Bob

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Bob, stuff made in this country costs at least twice as much as stuff made in China. Much of the stuff made in this country is not twice or even as good as stuff made in China. If I were to buy stuff made in this country, I would have to have two jobs just to break even. Is this what you propose? I hope not, because if it is, this is not a groundswell for you.
You are being short sighted. It's not about lowest at the expense of your country. With Wal Mart's massive economies of scale, goods in America can be produced cheaply with massive factory orders. Regarding Chinese quality, well what product group are you talking about? Pencils, microprocessors, cars, shampoo? We've given away the farm with their currency manipulation and have enabled our own deficit spending because they buy huge chunks of our debt. It's bad business for America to do these things for low prices, because the scenario I point out weakens our country, and is not fiscally sustainable in the long run. It's much like the Latin bumrush across our borders. Personally, I can remember paying 200.00 for my first DVD player at Costco. Now 30.00 buys one made in China. Every room in my house that has a TV has a DVD player. Do I need them? No. Does it raise my standard of living? I would argue no. I would rather pay 99.00 for one American made player built by Americans. There would be less trade deficit, less foreign influence from our debt purchase, and more national strength through manufacturing infrastructure. Our country would be more self sufficient and could not easily be held hostage by any country or group like OPEC. This was the scenario we had during the cold war. China owns us business wise, and we rely on them too much for manufacturing sourcing. One day they're going to face us down when we object to their military ambitions. Will we have the sway to make our position stick when they produce most of our everyday goods? That's the true cost of your cheap Chinese products we take for granted today, much like OPEC and terrorism, our dollars our slowly funding a problematic rival at the expense of our autonomy and way of life.
 
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