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poppy

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Sep 10, 2008
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You also have to remember that the space race didn't have an over one hundred year old industry before it started. The real issue with renewable energy is keeping it profitable for the giant corporations that control it. Free or extremely cheap energy is the death nail in a massive industry. I thought you were for jobs?

The italics are tongue in cheek and meant as sarcasm not to start a fight, pick apart the rest.

I remember the proponents in the early days of nuclear energy claiming it would be "to cheap to meter", yea right.
 

Jdarg

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Feb 15, 2005
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I thought I smelled dead horse.

Personally I like stopping them and then asking if I get the towels from them or call the front desk. The looks are great and the teenage girls want to crawl under them when they realize they are riding on the linen cart.


Wish I had remembered this yesterday when I was stuck in traffic on 30A in Seagrove behind 3 teenage girls and their golf cart. They turned up 395 and rode the bike path the whole way up to Watercolor.
 

ASH

Beach Fanatic
Feb 4, 2008
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Roosevelt, MN
I'm deathly afraid that it's only a matter of time if it hasn't happened already that all these folks "here on vacation" that left their common sense in another state are going to go around a corner too fast or not be looking (ever seen that?!?) when they pull out and it's going to be a major accident.
It's going to be the children leaving pounds of skin on the pavement who are going to suffer because they're already hanging out the back because they don't fit with all the coolers, chairs, umbrellas loaded up.

It's bad enough that too many bikes don't even attempt to stop at intersections. I never know what one of these is going to do and it's moving faster than many bikes do. There'll be bodies flying everywhere. It's a bad idea.
 

nr light

Beach Comber
Mar 4, 2010
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Destin, FL
wow.

Even though this topic may seem like a dead horse, I am glad that so many of you are still compelled to write about it.

I also feel that it is necessary to comment on the subject. As a local, I can see the point many of you are trying to make. We don't really trust whats "new" (and that includes tourists because they are new to the area as well as these new vehicles), but I have spent a lot of time listening to owners and experts in this field and I am convinced that these LSVs and NEVs (synonymous terms) are a fantastic stepping stone for the direction of our economy.

Yes, they are not the definitive answer for all our transportation, but they are a good improvement. Gas is estimated to go up to $5.00/gal soon enough. I think its great that a person wants to walk, bike, or drive a low speed electric vehicle that 10-20 mile stretch of land that is his or her community.

Mind you, I too panic when I see people being stupid driving something they are not familiar with, in a place they are not familiar with. I also panic when these same people are on scooters (which go waaay faster, making the people seem waayy dumber) and even with some people on bicycles (whatever happened to hand signals?)

But I think what we need to realize is that this movement IS happening. Its a happening all around our country. It is a slow, progressive movement, but we are moving towards electric vehicles. (isnt that great?) The technology is coming. What WE need to do is educate ourselves along the way. I am glad I am asking the experts. And if there is something you are unsure of, ask. Know the difference between LSV's and Golf Carts. Know the regulations on where to drive, who can drive, and HOW to drive them. Just being a part of this forum is educating because you know they are out there and to be careful, mindful drivers (as we all should be anyway). :)

I am also glad to be reading this forum because I am learning a lot from all of you too.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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I think you will find our disgust with NEVs and their safety issues matches our delight with road safe hybrid and electric vehicles.

We love the technological advances (and a solar power plant is being built in Walton) and are strong on conservation, just worried about safety. :wave:
 

AndrewG

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Mar 10, 2010
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35mph zones or less seems very reasonable. Most drivers speed through these 35mph community zones at 40-45mph. No wonder they have an issue with a vehicle traveling a safe 25mph. Everyone is in such a big damn hurry to relax.
 

AndrewG

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Mar 10, 2010
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I think you will find our disgust with NEVs and their safety issues matches our delight with road safe hybrid and electric vehicles.

We love the technological advances (and a solar power plant is being built in Walton) and are strong on conservation, just worried about safety. :wave:

Scooter,

Not buying it. People mainly care about having to drive slower. A few enjoy going out of their way to say something negative to a law abiding citizen simply because they don't like them. That's just crazy and immature.

Some like mandates others like freedom.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
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No, it really has to do with the cringe inducing behavior of the folks using them.

Kids and little babies unrestrained, overloaded carts, you name it.
 

AndrewG

Beach Fanatic
Mar 10, 2010
680
127
If I saw the same activity I would feel the same way. The difference though is some simply hate driving behind a slower vehicle and use "safety" concerns as a reason to say all LSV's are bad.

I am seeing many more lsv's on the roads nowadays. I'd be curious to know how much per mile they cost to operate. I saw a ton of these at the parade this year and I didn't see kids driving or riding illegally.

Are mopeds legal on 30A?
 

Lake View Too

SoWal Insider
Nov 16, 2008
6,971
8,478
Eastern Lake
This horse is beyond dead... I'll bring up my favorite point: do you really want the firetruck that is coming to save your house, or the ambulance that is going to save your granny from a heart attack, to be trying to manuever around a herd of golf carts meandering at 15mph?
 
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