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LuciferSam

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Are you suggesting that two wrongs make a right? If you eat meat you must choose the best route. That is The Omnivore's Dilemma. I agree on the bullet wound thing - it is a sad part of hunting- recall the scene about the stag in The Queen.

I would say this about the question you posted. First, a deer or wild bird at least led its life in freedom - eating grass, acorns, bugs - and lived without hormones or antibiotics. Did you watch the video? No deer or wild turkey is treated that way - no deer has its horns burned out from the inside of its skull without pain killers! No wild turkey (another video) has its beak burned off and is forced by way of hormones to grow so much that it can not stand up (if it could even find room to stand up in those crowded conditions) No deer is kicked around and called a f***er!

Look, if I could blow fairy dust on the world and end ALL SUFFERING for animals and humans I would. But that ain't happening. So, it is up to us to at the very least demand that animals - who give their LIVES for us - be treated as humanely as possible. It is happening. More and more people are thinking of cows, pigs and chicks as animals just like their own dogs. Would we treat our dogs that way? Our horses? People would be sh*tting bricks if this type of treatment was happening to a pack of dogs or cats or horses. (recall the UPROAR over dog fighting and Michael Vick) WHAT is the difference between factory farm animals and our beloved animals? I'll tell you the difference - we want our cake and eat it too! We don't want to vote with our bellies and our cravings. Well, sometimes you just have to. At the very very least share in the outrage, write letters, sign petitions, adopt a diet that has less meat and dairy. At the very least get meat and eggs and dairy from local sources. So we pay a little more. In the long run we pay less - for what is best for the animals is best for us - and from an environmental standpoint factory farming is - well, just read about hog lagoons to start. Madness!!

As I have said before, T Cline started this to make us wakeup when it comes to these cruel practices. We are eating these animals raised this way. Can you imagine drinking milk from a cow in that video? A far cry from the pretty cow pictured in a pasture in dairy commercials.

I hope I answered your question. As you can see, I am very passionate :love:

I'm just pointing out the reality that you're always going wonder if your very survival is the result of some other creature's suffering despite your best efforts.
 

Gidget

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I mean even the meadow vole is killed during wheat harvest, so yes, there is always death and suffering. But extreme suffering is what we hope to find a way around. It can be done.
 

Susan Horn

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There's a concept called conscious eating, which I think is what Gidget means. It is an awareness of the cycle of life and death, predator and prey, fruit becoming food, bugs and bunnies getting stepped on, etc., but that awareness is not accompanied with an attitude of cruelty or disrespect. Rather, with appreciation or gratitude, and respect for the plants and/or animals whose flesh gives us nourishment, and often a givinng back of something, whether prayer, or manmade fertilizer appropriately placed, compost, whatever.

Sorta like what the First Americans are portrayed as having done (and I like to believe it even though I wasn't there to see it with my own eyes) -- living in harmonic balance with nature and environment, taking only what you need and will use, wasting nothing. Turns out it's a really effective method of managing natural resources in a sustainable economy. They were also practicing permaculture based on what I remember of reading in 1491....

In my best moments, I imagine living a life where every step, every breath, every thought is a prayer in motion, set in beauty. One of these days.
 

scooterbug44

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You can be a lot more sure about how the animal was treated/killed when you are on a first name basis with the farmer/butcher/hunter and they are held accountable.

Also why the hunters who supply my wild game think people who claim to need an AK-47 and multiple shots to kill something are morons. You are supposed to be close enough to kill it instantly with one shot.
 
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Susan Horn

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You can be a lot more sure about how the animal was treated/killed when you are on a first name basis with the farmer/butcher/hunter and they are held accountable.

Also why the hunters who supply my wild game think people who claim to need an AK-47 and multiple shots to kill something are morons. You are supposed to be close enough to kill it instantly with one shot.

Think any of your hunter pals would have an interest in selling some venison to me?
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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They only do family/their own tables (even I only sometimes get sausage to bring back to FL), but I am SO going to light up the sowal cell phone tree if I hit one with the Scootermobile on 30-a or 98! (I play the girl card and only help once it's skinned and gutted).

Cabela's sells game, but it's $$.
 
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