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bronk33

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Jun 16, 2009
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All kinds of great things ... the cleanse involves avoiding the following items for 21-day:

Animal products
Caffeine
Gluten
Sugar
Alcohol

I could do without all of these.....except caffeine :yawn:
 

Gidget

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May 27, 2009
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So true! That is a tricky one. I need to get off it though. It messes with my blood sugar levels and makes me crash. I love the initial lift but the side effects not so good!


The BEST thing I ever did for my energy level was to stop caffeine! It sounds like it would be the opposite, but since it revs the body up - it is just natural that it will crash and one needs another revving up. Watch out for withdrawal headache though. :bang: NOT a lot of fun, but slowly decreasing is the way to go.

Believer, regarding hunting. Many animal rights activists are still opposed to hunting. I am not one of them. IF someone is truly going to eat the meat and not have it just sit in the freezer until it gets thrown out (they do that around here all the time). Many hunters love the environment and try to take good care not to litter, etc... And of course, at least the animal was not caged or forced to lead a truly abnormal inhumane existence.

G
 
I saw a sight yesterday that I've seen many times in the past that makes me not want to eat chicken.

There are a lot of poultry processing plants in Georgia. I saw a truckload of chickens passing through town in near 100 degree weather. They were packed into cages like sardines and didn't look very healthy.

Sorry, old friend Doug Cagle, I know they were going to one of your plants. But couldn't your chickens at least not be miserable before they get their heads chopped off? I wonder if their stress hormones (if chickens have such hormones) affect my body when I eat them after they are processed.:dunno:
 

Gidget

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I saw a sight yesterday that I've seen many times in the past that makes me not want to eat chicken.

There are a lot of poultry processing plants in Georgia. I saw a truckload of chickens passing through town in near 100 degree weather. They were packed into cages like sardines and didn't look very healthy.

Sorry, old friend Doug Cagle, I know they were going to one of your plants. But couldn't your chickens at least not be miserable before they get their heads chopped off? I wonder if their stress hormones (if chickens have such hormones) affect my body when I eat them after they are processed.:dunno:

Oh I've seen that before too. :sosad: Not exactly the pastoral pic that comes to mind when one things of "farm raised" chicken.

That's what this thread is all about. Like I said before, poultry and pigs have it really bad. :sosad:

G
 
Everyone should raise their own chickens and cows at Point Washington State park. Free pasture grazing for the animals of course provided by the good fellas of Walton County Commissioners office.


Gidget, I deer hunt with a bow by the way and now moving on to a primitive style longbow. Im one of the few good hunters left that only takes what his family eats.
 

Gidget

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Gidget, I deer hunt with a bow by the way and now moving on to a primitive style longbow. Im one of the few good hunters left that only takes what his family eats.

:clap: That's good to hear. We live on hundreds of acres of pine forest and have lots of deer. They enjoy the honeysuckle and habitat we created when we planted the trees 20 yrs ago.

G
 
Oh I've seen that before too. :sosad: Not exactly the pastoral pic that comes to mind when one things of "farm raised" chicken.

That's what this thread is all about. Like I said before, poultry and pigs have it really bad. :sosad:

G
My Granny lived on a farm near Tyler, TX. She had chickens, and at lunchtime she'd go outside, grab a chicken, wring its neck, and fry it up for lunch. In the meantime she'd go to the garden, grab tomatoes, corn, butterbeans, etc., and cook them up. Yum. Sad for the chicken, but at least it didn't suffer in 100 degree heat for hours in a cage.
 

Gidget

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My Granny lived on a farm near Tyler, TX. She had chickens, and at lunchtime she'd go outside, grab a chicken, wring its neck, and fry it up for lunch. In the meantime she'd go to the garden, grab tomatoes, corn, butterbeans, etc., and cook them up. Yum. Sad for the chicken, but at least it didn't suffer in 100 degree heat for hours in a cage.

It is a good point about the chicken. How long did your granny live? Was she active into her later years?

G
 

Miss Critter

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Gidget, you are so right about the wheat. Our teen son began suffering with chronic fatigue about a year ago, and we were unable to pinpoint the cause. He had ongoing insomnia and seemed almost depressed - less social, diminished sense of humor, difficulty concentrating in school. And this was previously a bright, talkative, funny kid. Though I chalked some of it up to adolesence, I knew that something was wrong. Fortunately our doc, Tommy John at Sacred Heart, thought to check for the gluten antibody. His blood tests came back with raised antibody levels, so he referred us to gastro doc. We saw two. One in Panama City, said that although he may be gluten sensitive or celiac, that was not likely the cause of his fatigue problem. He wanted to put him on Buspar and have him quit weightlifting (the one thing he still enjoyed doing). Sorry, that diagnosis did not fly with momma. The other local gastro doc was better, but still doubtful that his symptoms were the result of gluten sensitivity. The only way to know for sure, he said, was to perform a small intestine biopsy, which would require him eating gluten for six weeks prior to get an accurate result. We had reduced his gluten consumption already, and when I re-introduced it, he immediately felt worse. Fortunately, I found a lab online founded and run by Kenneth Fine, a gastro doc specializing in gluten and casein senstivity. It uses a non-invasive stool sample and does not require the patient to re-introduce gluten to be effective. They also offer a DNA test for genetic sensitivity to gluten. As we suspected, his test came back positive, not for celiac, but for gluten sensitivity, and his DNA test indicated he has not one, but two, genes predisposing him to it - meaning Mr. C and I have gluten issues, as well. And he is sensitive to casein, as well.

The bottom line is that his problem was indeed the result of eating gluten. My bright, funny, active boy is back. He has more energy, and though he still suffers a bit with sleep issues, that continues to improve, as well. And since I've stopped eating gluten, the mild arthritic pain in my hands has completely disappeared. There are so many diseases and conditions that may be associated with gluten that the list is staggering: fibromyalgia, lupus, cancer, arthritis, asthma, autism, ADD & ADHD among them. How many prescriptions are written needlessly for these conditions?

When I think of all the people unnecessarily medicated for conditions that might be resolved through dietary changes, especially children, I want to cry. I thank God I was prompted to find the underlying cause of my son's health issues. Discovering my own genetic issues with gluten provides a better picture of my family's past health issues, as well.

Organicmama loaned me an eye-opening book titled Dangerous Grains, which I highly recommend. It was especially interesting to note the connection some studies have made between gluten sensitivity and alcoholism. And there are many books on amazon related to both gluten and casein, including cookbooks with recipes.

The lab that did our testing is http://www.enterolab.com. The cost for the entire battery of tests was under $400, which I consider a bargain, and there is a detailed explanation of how to interpret your test results on the site.

Sorry to be so wordy, but I'm convinced that many people are suffering needlessly, as we were, with issues related to gluten in their diet. I hope this helps get the word out.
 
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