New Signs on 30-A
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ASH, I know you are joking about removing the signs, but some may take that seriously and try it. As much as I dislike the big blue wayfinding signs, I hope that our community doesn't get to the point where we destroy all things that we don't like, or those things with which we disagree.
I wish they would have painted the warnings on the multi-use path, much like turning lanes on a highway, and I don't think we should have a sign for every possible lawsuit. The problem with painting the warnings on the path is that the path is underwater in places after heavy rain, but bikers typically go off the path and into the road to avoid the water anyway.
Although I wish we didn't have so many signs, I am fairly pleased with the look/design of the new signs on the Timpoochee Trail (multi-use path). I am also pleased to see that the County opted to use prisoner labor to erect the signs, rather than subcontracting it. I've seen one sign which was a poor location choice, but I know the prisoners didn't select the placement. Thanks to Dave R and many others who were able to see ahead and stop the continuance of the Big Blue Sign Trend by recommending these other signs, which are much more in keeping with the uniqueness of Scenic 30A. I would also like to thank former Commissioner Cindy Meadows and the TDC Board for listening to citizen input and adjusting mid-stream. It shows me that when people who care get involved with items of interest, the County leaders and staff will listen.
I wish they would have painted the warnings on the multi-use path, much like turning lanes on a highway, and I don't think we should have a sign for every possible lawsuit. The problem with painting the warnings on the path is that the path is underwater in places after heavy rain, but bikers typically go off the path and into the road to avoid the water anyway.
Although I wish we didn't have so many signs, I am fairly pleased with the look/design of the new signs on the Timpoochee Trail (multi-use path). I am also pleased to see that the County opted to use prisoner labor to erect the signs, rather than subcontracting it. I've seen one sign which was a poor location choice, but I know the prisoners didn't select the placement. Thanks to Dave R and many others who were able to see ahead and stop the continuance of the Big Blue Sign Trend by recommending these other signs, which are much more in keeping with the uniqueness of Scenic 30A. I would also like to thank former Commissioner Cindy Meadows and the TDC Board for listening to citizen input and adjusting mid-stream. It shows me that when people who care get involved with items of interest, the County leaders and staff will listen.
I definitely like the new bike path signs, but the placement of a couple is a little hinky and the arrows need to be adjusted. IMO when the bike path crosses the road, the arrow on that sign should point where the path is going - not straight ahead.
Also, some of the wording is a bit confusing - still trying to figure out exactly what "path nears road, yield to user in path" means. We're both "users in the path".
Also, some of the wording is a bit confusing - still trying to figure out exactly what "path nears road, yield to user in path" means. We're both "users in the path".
I definitely like the new bike path signs, but the placement of a couple is a little hinky and the arrows need to be adjusted. IMO when the bike path crosses the road, the arrow on that sign should point where the path is going - not straight ahead.
Also, some of the wording is a bit confusing - still trying to figure out exactly what "path nears road, yield to user in path" means. We're both "users in the path".
I find it hard to fathom that there isn't an equal outrage to these ridiculous new signs that there was for the Big Blue Monsters.
Why not spend your time and energy moving the path away from the road rather than erecting 127 signs notifying nobody that the path is moving?
Why not spend your time clearing the path of rocks and gravel, which actually may save someone from an accident, rather than warning us, for the 127th time, that a vehical may be crossing the path (duh!).
Why is driving Highway 98 more enjoyable now than driving down 30-A? Fewer signs...
Why not pass an ordinace that actually enhances our new Scenic Highway designation? Like requiring all non-permanant signs (rental, for sale, etc) to be parallel to the road, not perpendicular?
I totally agree. "Intersection ahead" -- well, duh. Incredibly many reminders that no motorized vehicles are allowed on the bike path -- well, duh. Reminders that the bike path is about to be adjacent to the roadway -- well, duh.
BUT WAIT -- THERE'S STILL MORE. HOW ABOUT THE SIGNS THAT REMIND PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO INHALE AND EXHALE WHILE USING THE BIKE PATHS. I see a possible lawsuit coming for this omission.
BUT WAIT -- THERE'S STILL MORE. HOW ABOUT THE SIGNS THAT REMIND PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO INHALE AND EXHALE WHILE USING THE BIKE PATHS. I see a possible lawsuit coming for this omission.
I definitely like the new bike path signs, but the placement of a couple is a little hinky and the arrows need to be adjusted. IMO when the bike path crosses the road, the arrow on that sign should point where the path is going - not straight ahead.
Also, some of the wording is a bit confusing - still trying to figure out exactly what "path nears road, yield to user in path" means. We're both "users in the path".
I think it means give some leeway to the pedestrian/cyclist who is already in the danger zone and about to exit from it as you're entering it.
I think there is just an over abundance of these signs that say superfluous messages. 129 signs sounds way too much. They tried once before to put up stop signs on every cross street and it was a terrible idea. IMO they should think more about defining the path with painted border lines and removing the excess asphalt that borders Hwy 30-A along the stretch from the Wheelhouse to Eastern Lake Road. The excess asphalt (old bike path) could be removed and planted with grass and that whole stretch could look a lot nicer.
i dont post a lot on here, but here goes. i have lived in SoWal for almost 27 years, btw i'll be 27 next month. yep, born and raised!! i'm willing to bet that is longer than most of the people that post on this board. i have this to say. SHUT UP!! they are signs, they are there for the protection of pedestrians and drivers alike. we all use the road and some of us use the path from time to time. dont we all want to be safe when on either of those. bobbyj posted about his daughters dog getting hit by a car and killed. lets move that scenario over to 30a instead of pt wash and change the driver to a vacationer here for the first time and the dog to one of your kids or one of you for that matter. if the driver nor the child knows that danger is approaching the odds of something actually occuring becomes exponentially greater. so for the sake of the kids and the people that can still afford to come to our town on vacation, leave it be!! they are just signs, they arent hurting you or anyone else, they are only helping. signs are not going to bring sowal down or make it look any worse than all the people that move here and try to ruin my town by taking my beach, preventing me from launching my boat at grayton, etc etc. find something to argue about and fight about that effects us as a people, not stupid signs!! get over yourselves......
At the end of the day, its the temporary (or semi permanent) For Sale Signs and Rental Signs which are the bain of ThirtyA right now--they will always disfigure and overpower the well thought out strategy and cohesiveness of the new 30A wayfinding signage that is now being installed--especialy the sheer amount of " For Sale" signs currently.
I don't know how anyone get get a handle on controlling the displaying of temporary or semi-permanent Rental and Realty Signs--talk about herding cats!
Do these particular signs have more leeway and are there less strict standards applied by the county since they are considered "temporary"?
I don't know how anyone get get a handle on controlling the displaying of temporary or semi-permanent Rental and Realty Signs--talk about herding cats!
Do these particular signs have more leeway and are there less strict standards applied by the county since they are considered "temporary"?
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For the record, I was more outraged by these signs than the ones which I found unfitting to our area. I like the style of these new signs, but I still dislike that they are erected, rather than repairing the path, which when under water, tends to send bike riders into the street to avoid the water. They seem to want to take their chances with a 7000 pound SUV, rather than pedaling thru water. Plenty of places in Seagrove that need drainage resolution of the path, and need sand removed regularly.