New TDC Regional Beach access opposed by Beachfront owners

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  1. mar1na

    mar1na Beach Comber

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    Cindy Meadows suggested in a past meeting to create a couple of parallel spots for drop-off purposes (possibly handicap) - I would regard this as a good temporary compromise while the other steps I stated are taken. Since you do know the area, I assume you realize there is no lawful turnaround for vehicles currently? All vehicles are turning around using private driveways and parking lots - this is another issue Commissioners Meadows and Jones have agreed needs to be rectified, but no proposals to date have ever taken this into account.
     
  2. mar1na

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    Just a side note - we own a rental property and guests seek out our area when they have elderly or handicapped members within their reservation because the beach access is flat sand with no walkover.
     
  3. WMW

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    So, someone in a wheelchair/walker prefers sand vs a walkover ramp to the beach?
    I believe we should work towards beach accessibility, vs roadblocks. Once again, please seek a reasonable solution.
     
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  4. mar1na

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    Yes - in fact my property has been sought out by both elderly and handicapped for that very reason. In summary, the Walton Dunes Neighborhood Beach Access is currently accessible to the public and has more parking spaces than is demanded....so, what problem are you seeking a solution for?
     
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    This has NIMBY written all over it.......
     
  6. Danny Glidewell

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    Why oppose the addition of bathroom facilities? One of the common complaints is that people use the dunes in absence of any facilities. So adding bathrooms all along the coast answers a common complaint and enhances the beach experience for everyone.
     
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  7. Mike Jones

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    There are not many public beach accesses that have enough space for anything more than a boardwalk. Every beach property owned by the county was always meant to be maximized. Every access could, and probably will, end up with maximum amount of parking and restrooms if feasible. No neighborhood should be surprised or try to stand in the way of it.
     
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  8. Danny Glidewell

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    Why would we expend tax dollars to purchase property and then not enhance it to benefit the greatest number of taxpayers? Since taxpayers include visitors, the enhancements can be designed to benefit them as well.
     
  9. hi n dry

    hi n dry Beach Lover

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    The beach owners in the area around the proposed Walton Dunes/Beach front Trail are making up all sorts of disingenuous excuses to block a county proposal to make a convenient Regional Beach access for all the public to access.

    Currently this access is primarily used exclusively by neighbors and for county beach vehicle access.

    The current parking is up an incline 2 blocks away because the neighbors whined that they did not want street parking on county right of way near beach .

    The roads to this beach access is not through a middle of a neighborhood. It is an access road for numerous condos and developments.

    It is hypocritical to now say that it was acceptable to build all the houses and condos but now demand the county shut the door on the public accessing one of the most beautiful beaches along 30A corridor.

    If you really want to see a beach access through a neighborhood go to Grayton Beach .

    It is the epitome of hypocrisy complain about damaging the environment in a once pristine area that the complainers themselves have irreparably scarred by bulldozing the dunes to pave roads and parking lots, and build houses and condominiums.

    The dunes that were scarred and destroyed by the current owners in this area were the valuable and irreplaceable Secondary and Mature Backdunes.

    The dunes on the public access are Primary dunes . The purpose of these Primary Frontal Dunes is to help protect the Secondary and Mature Backdunes. These sacrificial dunes would likely be washed away in the next tropical storm.

    A properly designed beach access facility at this location will only serve to enhance the buffer function of these Primary Dunes

    The shameless owners in this area simply do not want the public to use this public beach and are desperately using every phony claim to stop the county from acting in the public's best interest.

    The proposed Regional Walton Dunes beach access would be the only Regional access from Seagrove Beach to Inlet Beach.

    The county is currently getting pummeled by the beach owners around Walton Dunes.

    If anyone wants a nice Regional access on this beautiful public beach then they need to write to the TDC and county commissioners asap.
    Plus be at the public workshop on June 8.

    The public's right to use the beach is meaningless if they can't easily access it.

    As is the premise for our wonderful National Park system the beaches are “For the Benefit and Enjoyment of ALL the People”, not just the few.

    TDC
    Brian Kellenberger
    Jay@visitsouthwalton.com

    County Commissioners:

    Cindy Meadows - meacindy@co.walton.fl.us
    Bill Chapman - chabill@co.walton.fl.us
    Sara Comander - comsara@co.walton.fl.us
    Cecilia Jones - joncecilia@co.walton.fl.us
    Bill Imfeld - imfbill@co.walton.fl.us
     
  10. hi n dry

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    It is the epitome of hypocrisy for owners in this to complain about damaging the environment.

    These owners are ones who bulldozed the irreplaceable Secondary and Mature Backdunes to pave roads and parking lots, and build houses and condominiums.

    The dunes on the public access are Primary dunes ,

    The purpose of these Primary Frontal Dunes is to help protect the Secondary and Mature Backdunes. These sacrificial dunes would likely be washed away in the next tropical storm.

    A properly designed beach access facility at this location will only serve to enhance the buffer function of these Primary Dunes.

    The current neighborhood beach access parking is very impractical for driving beach goers; it is 2 blocks away and there is no restroom.
     
  11. hi n dry

    hi n dry Beach Lover

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    The roads to this beach access is not through a middle of a neighborhood.

    It is a main access street for numerous condos and developments.

    It is hypocritical and discriminatory to use the "too much traffic card" to keep out the public when most of the traffic in this area is and always will be local.

    The hidden agenda of the owners in this area is that they do not want any "strangers" using 'their" public road and beach.

    correction:
    TDC Director Jay Tusa
    jay@visitsouthwalton.com

    TDC : Brian Kellengberger
    brian@visitsouthwalton.com
     
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  12. Andy A

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    Well said and right on the mark. It applies to BMB as well. Some are just greedy and old. I'm just old, but fortunately endowed with good common sense, something I find lacking in some beachfront owners.
     
  13. WMW

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    This looks very reasonable and well planned. It also solves turn around issues. It will be an asset for the community & county residents.

    Walton Dunes Conceptual Layout.jpg
     
  14. John G

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    It really does " look" good.

    Is anyone going to actually Enforce parking laws, if and when someone parks illegally on the road when all spots are taken? EMS would have a hard time getting to the residences there if some parked in typical SoWal fashion.

    That lot will also be fairly obstructed from view so "someone" will need to actually do security patrols there.

    I really like it, looks good. We'll see what happens.
     
  15. hi n dry

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    What is really laughable are the owners near this beach access who claim to be so concerned about disturbing these small PFD dunes.

    These owners bull dosed large mature secondary dues to develop their condos, parking lots, driveways, and houses.

    Yet they hypocritically want to deny the public of a much needed Regional Beach Access.

    The county has carefully designed this Regional Beach Access to minimize the impact on the environment.

    The county also plans to stabilize the dunes with natural vegetation.

    The fenced in beach walkover will also stop the current trampling and erosion of the vegetation and dunes.
     
  16. WMW

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    NWFDN article addressing some of the concerns expressed in this forum, link below.

    Beach access: Getting to the beach despite disabilities
    Walking along the beach is something many of us take for granted. But for those who have limited mobility, just getting to the beach can be a complicated task.
     
  17. ecopal

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    Today, Wednesday June 8 at 5:30 at the 331 South Walton Beach annex, the public will have an opportunity to voice support for the proposed Walton Dunes Regional Beach Access.

    This new Regional Beach Access will provide on site parking and bathrooms with 240 feet of public beach.

    This proposed TDC Regional Access would also offer the most convenient user friendly beach access on 30A for the elderly, families with small children, and the physically challenged including our wounded warrior veterans.

    The county commissioners need to approve this access for the greater good of the majority of Walton County residents and visitors who drive to the beach.

    The current number of Regional Beach accesses on 30A are grossly inadequate for the increasing number of residents and Spring and Summer visitors.

    Everyone will have an opportunity to speak for 3 minutes after the TDC does a presentation of the proposed Regional Beach Access site plan.

    Note that there is organized opposition by those that own near or on the beach next to this county property.

    Please try to attend to show your support or there is a good chance this will not get approved.
     
  18. FactorFiction

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    I hear NIMBY used a lot in Walton County. My question would be this: If the people who are most affected by an action did not look out for their "back yard" (neighborhood/community), who do you think will? I bet if an action of the TDC or County was of concern to you or your neighborhood, you would like your concerns heard.
     
  19. Garner

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    Don't forget this important meeting tonight at 5:30. Many will argue that the restrooms should be moved to the existing parking lot. This lot is 1/4 mile north of the beach, which if any of you have ever had a small child, is an insurmountable 425 + yards. Also, with the restroom facility at the access, there is a great possibility that we can get lifeguards on that beach. We have had several drownings in the panhandle this week, and isn't it worth it for that alone?
     
  20. WMW

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    At the conclusion of meeting, looks like this is the way the wind is blowing. Hopefully, owners will be open and reasonable.
     

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