New TDC Regional Beach access opposed by Beachfront owners

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  1. Lake View Too

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    Was there no final vote?
     
  2. miznotebook

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    They don't vote at workshops.
     
  3. Lake View Too

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  4. WMW

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    Please Note:
    On upcoming BCC meeting June 14th, TDC is requesting guidance on the proposed Headland Ave Beach Access in Seagrove. This beach access has been previously shot down at an earlier meeting, but there is momentum to revisit. This is an important beach access as it leads to Public, Not Private, beaches in Seagrove. Beachfront land owners in this area do not own to the MHWL. No lawyers required, just one additional BCC commissioner to vote yes.
    Please consider making your voices heard through; email, phone, etc...thereby gaining access to "public beaches".

    See BCC agenda
     
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  5. WMW

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    Headland Ave Beach Access Workshop was approved at tonight's BCC meeting.
    Workshop will take place on July 12th an hour before meeting. Primary resistance is from two beach front owners on both sides of county land. Although, it appears there is momentum in the community to press county into utilizing county owned property to gain access to "publicly" dedicated beaches in Seagrove.
     
  6. Danny Glidewell

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    This is a vital step in the move to allow the public access to the beaches.
     
  7. Mike Jones

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    You know what would really be a vital step? Removing all of the no parking signs and barriers from public right of ways.

    I find this practice to come from the same dark place that produced signs and chains on the beach. Except there is even less justification for it because it is a recorded and legal right of way. There are so many public accesses that we can't use only because adjacent homeowners don't want us to.

    Walton county clean it up - remove signs and barriers from public right of ways!
     
  8. Danny Glidewell

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    Public property should be protected by the government so that every citizen has the same rights to its use. Obstructions in the right of way and signage that attempts to subvert the rights of use for the general public to publicly owned property should never be tolerated.
     
  9. FactorFiction

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    I think you would find that line of sight for safety is a big problem in many of the locations where neighborhood accesses are found. When there are lots of driveways, parking can create major safety issues. Right of Ways have many purposes besides parking (utilities, for instance).
     
  10. Mike Jones

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    Parking near driveways do not cause major safety issues. Not sure what you mean by line of sight either.

    Yes there are some accesses where parking is nonexistent because of small streets, tight spaces, and landscaping. But there are many that would have a lot of parking if not for signs and chains, and posts. etc. Walton Rose Ln has a couple of hundred yards with very few driveways and dozens of signs.
     
  11. LarsAtTheBeach

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    I believe the county had a prime opportunity to purchase the large tract of land when the market was down across the street from the Dune Allen "Ft. Panic" beach access. It would have made a great parking facility. :dunno:
     
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  12. FactorFiction

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    I'm not familiar with Walton Rose Ln, but trying to get out of driveways with parking in ROWs right up to the driveways (check out 30A) does create safety issues as a result of not being able to see to pull out into traffic. ROW parking also creates hazards from car doors opening into traffic or multi-use paths. Children, and even adults, are sometimes difficult to see and will step out from between vehicles. Sight lines are used to keep an intersecting area clear enough to safely see and enter oncoming traffic. They are used where roads intersect and/or driveways intersect roads.
     

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  13. WMW

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    Vote was 4-1 for workshop with C. Jones voting "No". (Previous BCC meeting vote on this access before revisit was 3-2 against with C. Jones voting "No".)
    It is hard for me to understand denying beach access through county owned land to "a public beach", especially an area experiencing a great concentration of development with future build-outs. We are only talking a walkover and a bike rack! The accesses west of Headlands have no bike racks or space for bikes and we are supposed to be a bike friendly location? Its no wonder why we have transportation issues.
     
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  14. Garner

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    Wasn't that four acres for less than $800,000? Now developed with single family homes?
     
  15. LarsAtTheBeach

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    Yes.
    To their credit, the county did spend 2.3 million in 2003 to purchase the 3 acre Stallworth property at the end of Stallworth Blvd. (insert sarcasm tag here)

    13 years later we are still waiting for that site to be available to the public...oh wait, it won't because it's at the end of a private gated street.
     
  16. Matt J

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    It was purchased as preservation of dune mice habitat. It was never intended to be developed.
     
  17. James Bentwood

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    Sounds like a sweetheart deal for homeowners behind a gate.
     
  18. LarsAtTheBeach

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    That is not entirely true. I happen to know the circumstances intimately.
    However, that was not my point...my point was, the county (along with the land preservation trust, in full disclosure), was more than eager to make that deal. But couldn't muster up the ability to purchase the Fort Panic piece where parking is desperately needed.
    BTW, if there is interest. Check out the mission of the Land Preservation Trust. You will find it includes preserving land for the recreational use of the public.
     
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