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traderx

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Do you think someone who has a deep hatred for the US and everything it stands for cares what will happen to himself or his country. Just take a look at Osama Bin Laden who hates the very ground we walk on. Do you actually think he is threatened by what the US might do in retaliation....and of course HE is still out there. His strong belief that he is doing what Allah tells him to do would cause him to set off nuclear warheads if he had them with no thought about what would be coming back at them.

Did we go after him with everything we had after 911.....NO! And I can just bet at this very moment he eats, drinks, and sleeps with getting to Americans and cutting us off at the knees.

I just hope Obama has a third eye in the back of his head!

Can anyone be 100% sure that leaders with capabilities are afraid of what America might do in retaliation. It only takes one!!! As far as China needing us just might turn out to be false security.

Just like those pictures that popped up yesterday about North Korea having a missile about to be tested this country is run by F E A R. How does one keep another under control.......fear based actions!!!

I make no claim to know a whole lot about this and tend to speculate, but there are times when gut instinct is worth more then all the news out of Washington and news reporters on cable!

You really should try reading my post again.
 

30ashopper

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Right here!
I believe there were reports that Osama underestimated the U.S. response to 9/11, just like Hussein underestimated our conviction to invade his country. As long as we keep them guessing, we have the upper hand.

Kim Jong does what he does to extract payment from the U.S. and NATO. As soon as he falls out of the lime light, you can expect another missle launch or some such nonsense. I agree with traderx, I'm more concerned with nukes on the backs of idiots than nukes in the mountains of North Korea.

Iran has it's own problems right now, Obama is winning in a P.R. war on Ahmadinejad's people and the economy is a mess. We need to keep an eye on him and keep the pressure on through sanctions - in time the moderates might manage to overthrow his regime. A large number of Iranians are well educated, sensible people who enjoy western culture. At some point these folks are going to say enough is enough.
 
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Lynnie

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I believe there were reports that Osama underestimated the U.S. response to 9/11, just like Hussein underestimated our conviction to invade his country. As long as we keep them guessing, we have the upper hand.

Kim Jong does what he does to extract payment from the U.S. and NATO. As soon as he falls out of the lime light, you can expect another missle launch or some such nonsense. I agree with traderx, I'm more concerned with nukes on the backs of idiots than nukes in the mountains of North Korea.

Iran has it's own problems right now, Obama is winning in a P.R. war on Ahmadinejad's people and the economy is a mess. We need to keep an eye on him and keep the pressure on through sanctions - in time the moderates might manage to overthrow his regime. A large number of Iranians are well educated, sensible people who enjoy western culture. At some point these folks are going to say enough is enough.


Particularly since we had closed almost 50% of our military bases up to the year 2000 creating a perception that we were weak. And, Osama had dodged assassination from us (and, allies) prior to this. Osama is a coward with no country who can do a lot of damage if we allow him to create fear here.
 

ItzKatzTime

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Apr 27, 2006
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Any leader whose country possesses nukes along with ICBM delivery capabilities can make a simple calculation: if I send a nuke that hits the US, my country will be obiterated from the face of the Earth (I assume Obama thinks this but not sure). So, no reason to worry about NK. Besides they will do nothing without approval from China and China needs us. As crazy as we think Iran is, they are capable of making the same calculation. As much as I worry about Iran nuking Israel, again, Iran knows what the result would be.

What I worry about are terrorists bringing nukes into the US inside backpacks, or sent via FedEx or launched via a floating platform off the US coast. We have proven as a country that we do not have the will to go after terrorists on whatever soil they happen to be on. Three thousand dead in NYC did not give us lasting conviction. We would be upset at a couple of hundred thousand dead because of a terrorist nuke attack but my guess is the masses would soon shrug their shoulders and utter things like: what can you do?

You really should try reading my post again.

Okay. :wave:
 
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