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rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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I am teasing.

Still, it's really exhausting to try to answer all these posts. I feel stressed out about it.

Please....let's not start cross-party debates until July. Please?!?

Heck, by then WaltonGOP and I might be on the same side. :funn:
 

Jdarg

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I am teasing.

Still, it's really exhausting to try to answer all these posts. I feel stressed out about it.

Please....let's not start cross-party debates until July. Please?!?

Heck, by then WaltonGOP and I might be on the same side. :funn:

I think we need a Cross Party Lunch Summit. I will contemplate this one. I would love to have lunch with 2 people who are so completely educated and well-versed in their respective party's politics.
 

tistheseason

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I agree we should hold off until the cross party debates until we get past the primaries. . . or (as I've said before) it's going to be a long road to November!:bang:
 

TooFarTampa

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I agree we should hold off until the cross party debates until we get past the primaries. . . or (as I've said before) it's going to be a long road to November!:bang:


Besides, if Obama's not the nominee they'll probably just eat pizza and sing Kumbaya anyway ...
 

Teresa

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Nov 15, 2004
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:rotfl:
Besides, if Obama's not the nominee they'll probably just eat pizza and sing Kumbaya anyway ...


:rotfl:
well, who knows what The Hill is going to pull out of her.. hat if she does get the nomination. I think she'll have a pretty good shot. I could be dead wrong. i don't even know if I want to be right or wrong. this is really ridiculous.
 

raven

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May 14, 2007
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National Journal?s 2007 Voter Ratings
By Brian Friel, Richard E. Cohen and Kirk Victor
Published Thursday, Jan. 31, 2008
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.
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In their yearlong race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama and Clinton have had strikingly similar voting records. Of the 267 measures on which both senators cast votes in 2007, the two differed on only 10. "The policy differences between Clinton and Obama are so slight they are almost nonexistent to the average voter," said Richard Lau, a Rutgers University political scientist.
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Indeed, the similarities in Obama's and Clinton's voting records last year were extensive. Both supported most measures aimed at withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. Both supported comprehensive immigration legislation including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Both voted to support most Democratic positions on health care, education, energy, and the budget, and both voted against most Republican positions on those topics.
But NJ's vote ratings are designed to draw distinctions that illuminate the differences among lawmakers. The calculations ranked senators relative to each other based on the 99 key votes and assigned scores in three areas: economic issues, social issues, and foreign policy. (House members were scored in a separate set of rankings. The full results for both chambers will be published in our March 8 issue.)
On foreign policy, for example, Obama's liberal score of 92 and conservative score of 7 indicate that he was more liberal in that issue area than 92 percent of the senators and more conservative than 7 percent. Clinton was more liberal than 83 percent of the senators on foreign policy and more conservative than 16 percent.
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Overall in NJ's 2007 ratings, Obama voted the liberal position on 65 of the 66 key votes on which he voted; Clinton voted the liberal position 77 of 82 times. Obama garnered perfect liberal scores in both the economic and social categories. His score in the foreign-policy category was nearly perfect, pulled down a notch by the only conservative vote that he cast in the ratings, on a Republican-sponsored resolution expressing the sense of Congress that funding should not be cut off for U.S. troops in harm's way.
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To view the entire article please visit:
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

very informative.
i'd love to see a grid chart with the voting records of obama, clinton and mccain side by side.

i must say i'm terribly disappointed that the only people running appear to be those who've failed us in the senate in recent years.
 

raven

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May 14, 2007
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democratic debate is VERY intersesting so far. obama trying to pretend he's a gentleman. it really takes a rather aggressive person to make hillary look like anything other than the shark she is...that's actually a great benefit for her team who really needed her to look softer...both sucking up to edwards voters

so glad i'm an independent when i watch these things. but still praying for an independent candidate. if hillary gets the nomination the republicans will be in a quandry because they'll have another republican moderate to run against mccain.
 
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