Pandora's gets shut down at 9:30 due to Coconut Radio's "loud music"....

Discussion in 'Music and Nightlife' started by weatabix, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. whatduh

    whatduh Beach Lover

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    Well after listening to the meeting yesterday it seems to me that the main problem is the wedding partys being held in residential neighborhoods. I totally agree ... these people who are putting on these weddings are making a butt load of money turning a residential house into a commercial business at the expense of their neighbors ... I'd be pissed too. But who gets arrested???? Not the "Holyer than tho" beachfront "home" owners, the ones who are causing this whole problem.. no, it's some 22 year old kid trying to do a job at a club. I've been here since 1984 and it's always the same old thing... the beachfront home owners can do no wrong...when it comes to lights on the beach they refuse to cooperate for the sake of the turtles, they would rather see an endangered species baby's run over on 30A than turn off their frikin porch lights... its the same thing here with the noize... they have a good money making thing going with these wedding partys and the commissioners wont stop them because they don't want to upset them. Now they are going to pass this ordinance and squash the entire entertainment industry throughout the whole county instead of concentrating on the ones who are causing the problem in the first place. We have some great local talent here and it could be a great asset to the community and local economy. People don't want to set around and watch TV when their on vacation... they can do that at home!!!! They want to go out and hear a good live band krankin out the tunes...!!! The idea of arresting our young people over this is disgusting.
     
  2. wrobert

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    I think everyone is leaving Walton County to go play Goofy Golf and eat at McDonald's. Wake up and we can enjoy that sales tax also.
     
  3. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

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    The Miramar Beach McDonald's (in Walton County) is about 15 minutes from Grayton. That is close enough for anyone who is really dying for a square of fried pressed fish mush or a Big Mac. Fast food adds nothing to our community except obesity, minimum wage jobs and litter while live music, done in a manner that doesn't disturb the peace, adds life and character.
     
  4. rolling dune

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    rediculous

    This is the most rediculous issue I've heard of...these people complaining need to get a life, the music at Pandora's isn't offensive, I would love to be able to sit out back and hear a free concert on the weekends. Get a Life complainers!
     
  6. wrobert

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    Just because you like music does not mean everyone else does.
     
  7. sullygromo

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    Then

    Wouldnt it make sense to not locate your home next to somewhere where you KNOW there is going to be music? Why does this seem like common sense to me?
     
  8. wrobert

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    Okay those people are pretty dumb. But what about those where the homes were their first? Then someone comes in, buys a huge monster house, then turns it into a wedding chapel.
     
  9. Will B

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    I think everybody is in agreement on the whole wedding house thing. It's the inconsistencies in how complaints are dealt with when it comes to long standing bars / restaurants that have always had entertainment. Let's have one discussion at a time...
     
  10. Grayton Girl

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    OK, I am finally going to weigh in on this topic. Here is my opinion:

    As a long-time resident of Grayton and Seagrove (is 50 years as a part- and full-time resident long enough?), I believe that this issue has nothing to do with “saving the music” and it has nothing to do with anyone wanting to put musicians out of business. I would bet that most of the complainers (whether they are complaining about loud music, loud crowds, loud dogs barking, or whatever) enjoy live music, just like everyone else. I don’t think that anyone wants to run live music out of South Walton so please, stop panicking.

    Rather, this issue has everything to do with when and how live music is presented. It also has everything to do with how to be a good neighbor.

    When a commercial establishment chooses to locate itself in a Neighborhood Preservation area (such as Grayton, Blue Mountain, Seagrove, Dune Allen), those commercial establishments have a duty to coexist peacefully with the neighbors. The establishments that I have read about, Pandoras and the former Snapperheads, are not located in Town Center or Mixed Use, nor are they part of a large community plan (or DRI’s) such as Seaside, Rosemary, Watercolor, etc.

    Instead, these bar/restaurants are located in neighborhoods and directly adjacent to previously existing residential lots. Contrary to what has been stated on this board, all of the residential lots and most of the homes adjacent and near to these businesses were in existence long before Pandora’s or the Salty Dog/Snapperheads ever even opened for business.

    In my opinion, a commercial establishment that chooses to do business in a neighborhood should keep its noise within the confines of the establishment. Ollie at the Red Bar seems to have no trouble doing this. He has his music inside, every day, the windows are closed, and there are no noise issues due to live music around the Red Bar.

    What happens is that establishments such as Pandora’s and Snapperheads usually start as restaurants. OK, fine, Then they add live music. First, the music is inside. No problem. But then they decide to move the music outside to attract more business and to open up space inside for diners or bar patrons. They either start to amplify this music or it is played at a level where the adjoining neighbors are unable to enjoy their own lives on their own properties. So what was initially an “ok” situation (from the residents’ perspective) gradually turns into a very difficult situation to live with.

    The residents of Grayton put up with a lot, especially with regard to traffic, and we all love living in Grayton. But the things that make Grayton so wonderful – its cool, funky cottages, its small shops and local restaurants, and its beach community feel – also require a balance between those who want to make a buck off Grayton and those who actually live in this cool and hip community. Grayton and Blue Mountain (and other small and quaint neighborhoods) should not be the home of loud late-night bars because such uses are not consistent with neighborhood-scale commercial uses (and under our Comprehensive Plan, neighborhood-scale commercial uses are the only types of uses that are authorized in the Residential Preservation category).

    I have heard sowallers telling those who complain to put earplugs in or to lighten up and start enjoying life. But I will tell you that until you have dealt with an ongoing noise problem yourself, you cannot understand how distracting it can be and how unhappy it can make you. I would also bet that few of the “sowal critics” are full-time residents who live near these live music venues; rather they come to these neighborhood bars to enjoy the music and then head back to the confines of their quiet homes – very easy to say “live with it.”

    My hope is that the establishments that are causing the problems would get some good business sense and just take their music inside and tone it down a little. Be a good neighbor and you will be welcomed into the neighborhood. (If everyone acted like good neighbors, there would be no need for any noise ordinances at all, but unfortunately, that is not the case.) Furthermore, I hope that there might be more interest in opening music venues in purely commercial areas – say along 98 in business districts and town centers. Those establishments could stay open late and have loud bands without any complaints.

    Thank you for the opportunity to post my opinion and for reading my perspective on the "real" problem.
     
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  11. rapunzel

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    Just wanted to say that I was initially one of those who, because of my proximity, thought the complaints about Pandora's were a bit curmudgeonly.

    Tonight, however, I must admit that the music is out of hand. I can hear it through the bedroom window with the ceiling fan going as I type. My dog ran to the backyard to find the party when I let him out to poo just now.

    I'm not going to call the police or anything, but I just wanted to go on record -- the music gets a little louder every night. In the last week it's reached an annoying level. I agree with Grayton Girl -- it's all about being a good neighbor.
     
  12. Douglas the Intrepid

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    It certainly sounds like they are not being good neighbors. At this time of night I would not hesitate to call the police if my sleep were being disrupted on a weeknight and I had to work in the morning. I certainly do not envy your proximity Rapunzel! Point Washington State Forest is my backyard and I will keep the frog serenade as my nightly concert! lol :eek:
     
  13. jessifunn

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    its a thing for locals every year at the end of the season. not sure how you didn't know about it but you missed one heck of a party!
     
  14. jodiFL

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    Mr.Watson has been having this party at Pandoras on the Tuesday after Labor Day for YEARS. He is the owner of the Garage Cafe in Bham and serves up some amazing BBQ. Wish I could have been there but I was working. I heard he really went all out for some very hard working people.
     
  15. rheffron

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    A friendly call to the Restaurant would have been in order.
     
  16. Smiling JOe

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    Two bands, one inside and one outside, and all the free BBQ you could eat, open invitation to everyone. I hear it was a great party.
     
  17. weatabix

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    it was........


     
  18. Franny

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    The best!:clap:
     
  19. Iris

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    The party was great.

    We bought land here 17 years ago and built 15 years ago. We decided on a quiet street and it still is. Pandora's was there then and has not changed. They were the only place to get food after Opal. They were helping residents way back when.

    The steaks are great and so are Gina and Carl.

    I say call Pandora's and complain.
     

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