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Lake View Too

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Nov 16, 2008
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The states may have had the legal right to secede, whether it was morally right to lead an armed rebellion for the reasons stated is the major question. It is right to march hundreds of thousands of men to their deaths for slavery and lower tariffs?No.
 

Danny Glidewell

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The states may have had the legal right to secede, whether it was morally right to lead an armed rebellion for the reasons stated is the major question. It is right to march hundreds of thousands of men to their deaths for slavery and lower tariffs?No.

While that sounds good, it is not realistic. The South seceded, the North did not want them to leave the Union. Primarily because a large percentage of the funds used to operate the Federal government came from tariff's collected in Southern ports. So the North began raising an army to force the South to stay. The South responded and next thing you know they are shooting at each other. One action begat's another. Is that "right?" No, but it is reality.
 

Lake View Too

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Yes, an ugly reality. Mortally indecent decisions made on both sides. Why commemorate it?
 

PJJ

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Oct 27, 2007
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While some need to enroll in a history class, an English class wouldn't hurt some others.

But fellow resident Casey Nelson says the flag isn’t about racial hatred.
“I have a petition here, the biggest one online, we have 2,370 signatures,” Nelson says, “We are wanting to keep the flag, if you change it we’re fine with that. We need to honor our ancestors—they can’t nobody say it’s race.”

Oh and the story is national now.

HuffPo
 

Danny Glidewell

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Yes, an ugly reality. Mortally indecent decisions made on both sides. Why commemorate it?

Yes, it is a ugly reality. The fact that there was a war is a failure on the part of the leadership at the time. But we have memorials for two reasons. 1 is to commemorate the sacrifice of those who shed their blood in defense of their homes, families and freedoms. 2. To remember what happened so that we can prevent it from happening ever again. There are many memorials around the country honoring many different people. They are all important. The markers around the county are also memorials to those who have gone before us.
You do not have to like war or support the reasons a war occurred in order to honor those who fought.
 

Danny Glidewell

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While some need to enroll in a history class, an English class wouldn't hurt some others.

But fellow resident Casey Nelson says the flag isn’t about racial hatred.
“I have a petition here, the biggest one online, we have 2,370 signatures,” Nelson says, “We are wanting to keep the flag, if you change it we’re fine with that. We need to honor our ancestors—they can’t nobody say it’s race.”

Oh and the story is national now.

HuffPo

Come on, you are reading a quote of something that was spoken. Many of us know English and write adequately but are sometimes careless in how we talk. I know I do. We tend to speak in sort of a short-hand and contract words far more than we do when writing. Can you understand what was said because I have no problem understanding?
 

Teresa

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Yes, it is a ugly reality. The fact that there was a war is a failure on the part of the leadership at the time. But we have memorials for two reasons. 1 is to commemorate the sacrifice of those who shed their blood in defense of their homes, families and freedoms. 2. To remember what happened so that we can prevent it from happening ever again. There are many memorials around the country honoring many different people. They are all important. The markers around the county are also memorials to those who have gone before us.
You do not have to like war or support the reasons a war occurred in order to honor those who fought.

True. Remember and honor history and all those who lived it, fought for their way of life, died, sacrificed. It was an inevitable war within our country. That has never been in question for many of us.

But like Robert E Lee, put away the flag that flew over that war and it's ideals. Place it in a museum as many other cities and towns have done all over the south over the years. One day when we're ready, we'll get there. We're not ready quite yet. The flag is still meaningful for people for many reasons.
 

Misty

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While some need to enroll in a history class, an English class wouldn't hurt some others.

I don't know how many of you have ever stood up in front of your duly elected government officials to speak but I can assure you it is a very nerve racking, humbling, powerful experience. My mouth goes so dry that I actually chew gum so that I can swallow. If I read something I lose my place and have stumbled over words that made perfect sense prior to standing in front of a group of individuals who have the authority to enact change, while people behind me who don't share my views make snide remarks or hiss and boo because they don't like what I have to say and don't necessarily want change or want their own version of change. What I perceived to be "my" nerves of steel fail me and I'm a quivering mass of jello because I am silently thinking that I'm not coming off as a strong, independent person who is capable of rational thought and forming coherent, cohesive sentences even though I know I am.

There were several people in that room who didn't articulate themselves as well as education has taught us that we should but it didn't make their views or opinions any less important than any others. To single out one individual for grammatical error is just petty and divisive. Grow up.
 

Misty

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Mr. Nelson didn't make a mistake. He used his expression and we all have them.


That would be "Ms. Nelson" if were are going to be grammatically correct!
 
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