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mputnal

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Teresa, I know this is unrelated to the thread but you might be interested in an Essay by Sanderson Beck titled "How Lincoln could have prevented the civil war". The author/historian was born and raised in California so he is unbiased toward the North or South. Lincoln's hard political line and the fact that he was supported by Northern money is one of the causes of the civil war. Not denying that slavery was a full throttle issue but because politics is mostly about money it definitely influenced Lincoln.
 

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Teresa, I know this is unrelated to the thread but you might be interested in an Essay by Sanderson Beck titled "How Lincoln could have prevented the civil war". The author/historian was born and raised in California so he is unbiased toward the North or South. Lincoln's hard political line and the fact that he was supported by Northern money is one of the causes of the civil war. Not denying that slavery was a full throttle issue but because politics is mostly about money it definitely influenced Lincoln.

I do believe the civil war was necessary for the country to resolve the issue of slavery and move forward as a united nation. It's not that simple, and surely slavery would have ended on its own eventually, but being united as a nation was the ultimate goal. Interesting to imagine if the South had won. We would be living in a different nation.
 

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If the South had won, I shudder to think what might be in place of the Statue of Liberty. Probably some enormous lawn jockey.
 

mputnal

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I do believe the civil war was necessary for the country to resolve the issue of slavery and move forward as a united nation. It's not that simple, and surely slavery would have ended on its own eventually, but being united as a nation was the ultimate goal. Interesting to imagine if the South had won. We would be living in a different nation.
At some point human lives have to the goal. 625,000 lives were lost! The constitution did not prevent States from succeeding and forming their own republic. We have no way of knowing how it would have worked but the point is Lincoln took positions that led to the civil war.
 

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The Confederacy made decisions that led to the deaths of 640,000 Americans. Do you really think that armed rebellion was the way to resolve the issues of slavery, and power?
 

mputnal

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The Confederacy made decisions that led to the deaths of 640,000 Americans. Do you really think that armed rebellion was the way to resolve the issues of slavery, and power?
Lets have lunch some time and I will continue this discussion with you. Let me know when and where (hell freezing over is would not be on my dime) :)
 

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Do you think armed rebellion was the morally correct way to solve the questions of slavery and power?
 

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Lets have lunch some time and I will continue this discussion with you. Let me know when and where (hell freezing over is would not be on my dime) :)

You seem like you're "out to lunch" already...
 

Andy A

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And, as is so often the case, you beat him to the lunch counter.
 
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