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Smiling JOe

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That dirt looks like South Alabama topsoil. What the hell are they thinking. I guess not only tourist remove their thinking caps. I wonder if people should build elsewhere?
 

Kurt

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Beach Runner said:
In reference to http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=11054&postcount=55, which Munsell color chart are they referring to? The sand in the photo is startlingly dark. And I had no clue before reading this thread that the dark sand would change the color of the water, too.

Here is a graphic of Munsell scale values (hue and chroma are also important but aren't talked about much here):
http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=11057&postcount=56

Some background:

http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=684&highlight=munsell

http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=885&highlight=non-white

http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov/globe/pvg/munsell.htm
 
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Kurt

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Smiling JOe said:
That dirt looks like South Alabama topsoil. What the hell are they thinking. I guess not only tourist remove their thinking caps. I wonder if people should build elsewhere?

The soil in the photos, deposited on Blue Mountain Beach, is coming from a 20 acre pit off Hwy 83, north of DeFuniak Springs.
 

wetwilly

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When I first saw this, I was shocked. In an earlier post, I read that they got permission to use non white sand but that is ridiculous. Obviously, they went and bought the cheap stuff. Hopefully they are only planning to use this "dirt" to backfill and fortify the foundations of the homes and not spread it on the beach?

Are they spreading this stuff on the beach? If they get the addl $16M needed to complete restoration, I hope they plan on getting some of the white sand. State and Federal money are available and I hope they use it properly. Yuk.
 
kurt said:
Thanks. I googled Munsell, and the only links I found were those selling books of Munsell charts (there are different types, even a Munsell soil color table) for over $100 a pop.

Exactly - hue and chroma appear to be very important factors. The last link is very informative. Thanks again.
 
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JB

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Nov 17, 2004
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TooFarTampa said:
Okay, Kurt. Whom do we call, write, harass? Whose decision is this, exactly, so we can reinforce the idea that this is a hideous "solution"?

I have already emailed the county commisioners. I would like to email Brad Pickel as well if anyone has his address.
 

Oldtimer

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Nov 16, 2004
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Makes no sense to me. Brown sand? Protecting what? Why? Building on sand should not be allowed anywhere, anytime!!!!

The sugar white sand of the Walton County beaches has distinguished the area from every other gulf community and should be cherished, not trashed! :pissed:
 

TooFarTampa

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I have already emailed the county commisioners. I would like to email Brad Pickel as well if anyone has his address.

Brad wanted white sand used. He was ignored. :dunno:
 
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