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  1. Liv'smom

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    Update

    Good morning everyone. First, let me say wow. Thanks to all who took an interest in my post. Your concern and feedback were staggering. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to put in their two cents. Also, I would like to remind everyone that the incident I wrote about was not witnessed by anyone but a 9 year old and a 2 year old. I believe that it went down the way my 9 year old said because I know her to be a truthful child. No one else here is expected to believe that this is what happend beyond a shadow of a doubt, as you don't know her. I am only saying this because I saw mention of having a law enforcement official read all of this and I want everyone to understand that I did not witness any of this myself. I don't want to make anyone out to be a bad guy, I just want folks to be aware. Anyway, here is what happened;
    I called last night at about 6:30. I relayed the story to the dispatcher as it was told to me by my 9 year old. His response was very guarded, understandably. He asked me where it happened, if anyone else was around, etc. I explained that I wasn't upset or looking to persue anything, I just wanted them to be aware. He said that he would have his sergeant call me. Although the dispatcher did not say so, I could tell by his response that it was highly out of the norm. He kept saying things like, "if this is what happened". I was not in the least bit offended, I understand their position. So about a half hour later the sergeant calls. He says that he will have to find out from the weekend supervisor who was on patrol in our neighborhood that day and he would deal with it as seen fit. (On a side note, I got my days mixed up because of the long weekend. This actually happened on Sunday. ) I tell him that is fine, I'm not trying to point any fingers. No harm was done, again I just want them to be aware that it could have been blown way out of proportion by someone else. The sergeant, was more forthcoming with the inappropriateness of the situation. He said that the officers do sometimes blow their sirens for kids on the street, just like truck drivers do, but that if this is what happened he doesn't agree with it. I told him that I didn't want to get anyone in trouble, that I had let my girls know why this was not okay and I just thought he should do the same. I explained how it was difficult for me to teach them about not getting in the car with strangers no matter how they are dressed if one of his uniformed officers was inviting them into his car. He said he understood my position completely. I thanked him for calling me back and he was very gracious about the whole thing. I think all in all it was a good thing. I don't know whether I will be contacted again. I told him I didn't need to know who this officer was and that I do appreciate their presence in the neighborhood. Thanks again for everyones concern.
     
  2. Kurt Lischka

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    Thanks for posting and being reasonable with them. I hope the SO sees the responses here.

    A lot of people still see this place as Mayberry and I'm thankful for that. And it is compared to the big city.
     
  3. Liv'smom

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    That's kind of how I still see it. I've only lived in one other place and that was just on the other side of Lake Powell at Pirates Cove. It's hard to let go of the past. When you have the opportunity to grow up in a place like this, you want the same for your kids.
     
  4. ShallowsNole

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    Liv's Mom,

    Just chiming in here at the ending - I didn't see your thread yesterday. You did the right thing by reporting the incident. I can assure you that your complaint wasn't taken lightly.

    As the wife of a WCSO deputy, I'm shocked and embarrassed. As a mom, I would freak. Deputies are supposed to be friendly, but not THAT friendly. Plus, play with his siren? The sirens are so loud that, up close, they scare most kids. Especially girls! :shock:

    I'm hoping it was just one of the younger guys, who doesn't have kids and doesn't understand how strange his actions may seem or the fear a mom has for her childrens' safety. And I'm hoping his intentions were innocent.

    Meanwhile, I'm going to ask my spouse if he did any patrolling in Inlet Beach Sunday afternoon. :confused:
     
  5. Liv'smom

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    No he didn't seem to take it lightly at all. He was borderline skeptical, which is of course understandable. If you find out through your husband who the officer was, please don't post anything eluding to his identity. I'm sure as an officer's wife I don't have to remind you of the importance of discression. If it was a mistake, I don't want him to suffer any embarrasment over this whole thing. Thank you for the support.
     
  6. Liv'smom

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    If this works, this is the new face of neighborhood watch.:clap_1:
     
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    I think of it as mayberry,:wub: in a coastal sort of way...
    love the new neighborhood watch!!!:wub: toooooo cute!!!
     
  8. Liv'smom

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    Her bite is far worse than her bark.:razz:
     
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    You don't need correcting, the officer in question does. I think I would go higher than Ralph with a report. Sometimes these things are listened to and that's as far as it goes, and they hang up the phone laughing. You need to have a DOCUMENTED COMPLAINT on file with the State Police. That way nothing can accidentally get "lost" or swept under the rug in the sheriffs dept. Child predators come in all shapes, sizes, professions, denominations, colors etc in every corner of the world. Don't let this go!
     
  10. GoodWitch58

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    I am a Mom and a grandmother to a 3 year old. Last night I could not sleep for thinking about this situation.

    The thing that bothers me the most is that when this law enforcement person saw two small children playing alone in an isolated area--he apparently did not immediately go to find the responsible parents and make sure they were in fact paying attention to their children; instead, he engaged these children in what IMO was a totally inappropriate activity.

    Regardless of whether he was acting innocently or not--as a parent I would be much more interested in knowing that Sheriff Johnson had a talk with him and let him know what his priorities should be in that situation.

    Believe me, if this official is innocent, he will appreicate being better informed so that he does not get himself and the Sheriff's Department in a difficult situation; if he was not innocent, then hopefully he will be relieved of his duties and someone else's children will not be potential victims.

    The law enforcement officials work for us--the public --and we should hold them to the highest standards, especially where children are concerned.

    Believe me, they can get out of line. I had it happen with my 13 year old son once--and I and my son, ended up with a public apology from the chief of police; the officer was reprimanded; and my son saw his Mom stand up to the authority figure who was so obviously out of line. We all learned from that experience and my son learned to question all authority and to stand up for himself.

    IMO no parent need worry about getting an adult person in trouble for behaving inappropriately around children, regardless of whether or not the behavior was innocent.

    I say call him on it, and let him explain to the parents what his intentions were! We'll all sleep better once that is done.:!:
     
  11. Rudyjohn

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    I saw that show, too. I remember a few parents were saying that it scares their children to talk about such horrible things, and they preferred to "pad" the converstions. He bluntly said, "Believe me, it's better to scare the s**t out of your kids than to have them end up dead." That did it for me.
     
  12. ShallowsNole

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    Hubby didn't know who was in Inlet Beach Sunday afternoon, and since he has been on his "weekend" since Monday night, he hasn't been in contact with anyone to hear any scuttlebutt. But, rest assured that he is very sensitive to discretion - he has been in law enforcement for 23 years and has seen and heard it all. And I certainly don't want to embarrass anyone - many people from time to time make a serious error in judgment. My concern is the same as yours - hopefully an error in judgment is all it was.

    One thing I thought about this morning...there are several security companies that operate in this area that put their security guards in uniform and paint their cars to resemble an official vehicle. The only thing that is required to work for these companies is a security guard license (can't remember what it's called right now - Class G?) and there may or may not be background checks involved, depending on the the company. To a nine-year old, there may not be a noticeable difference between one of these guys and a uniformed LEO. Not saying this is what happened, but it is a thought.

    In any event, good luck and hug your girls for the rest of us. :wub: As has been alluded to earlier in this thread, folks tend to think SoWal is Mayberry. I can assure you it isn't.
     
  13. Liv'smom

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    ShallowsNole,
    That is a possibility I hadn't thought of. The SO patrols my neighborhood at least twice a day, so I didn't even think about anything else. We don't have any kind of security that patrols, but it could be that someone was just driving around on their lunch break. It was around noon that this occured. Or, it was a freak cruising around looking for 2 little girls to snatch.:creepy: Maybe he got spooked and changed his mind. I shutter to think. Thank you for your take on it. Yet another thing we can all be on the look out for.
     
  14. Smiling JOe

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    As I asked earlier, how do you know it was a real officer? Anyone can buy a Ford LTD , red and blue lights, a siren, uniform, gun, and a badge. Look no further than ebay to buy any badge you want. Even adults have been tricked by people pretending to be cops.

    If it were me, I would want the full report, in case it was a cop who also happend to be up to bad, bad stuff. A criminal, lawfully wearing a badge, is no different than a bank robber being in charge of the bank vault for his night job.
     
  15. Liv'smom

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    That's just it SJ, you don't ever know when it's a good guy or a bad guy. For all any of you know, I'm a perv who made up this whole story just to find out who of you has small children. I gain your trust as a concerned parent. I start asking questions about where your children go to school on the pretence that I am looking for a school for my child. I am in essence, grooming you to get to your child. Although I thought Shelly went about his/her comment in a harsh way, I did agree that it is ultimatley my responsibilty to make sure my kids are safe. I just wanted to make sure that "if" it was an officer, we could take them out of the equation by reminding them that it was inappropriate. We have to teach our children and obviously ourselves, to always be aware of what is going on. A parent is supposed to be the most trusted person in a childs life and how often do we see on the news where a parent has murdered, molested, or raped their child. Evil is everywhere. I thought I had my eyes wide open before, now I know they were half closed. Lesson learned.
     
  16. Smiling JOe

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    good points. Thankfully, most people are good people with good intentions. As for sex offenders, I recall reading statistics that the majority know their victims and often they are friends or family members. I think we have to go through life with a hint of caution, a bucketfull of awareness, and a world of love, all while keeping our fingers crossed that all will be good in the end.
     
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    Given the situation and the posted comments that I read up to the point of making my statement, I felt it needed to be said.

    When it comes to a serious situation like this...like the cop on Oprah said, "it's better to scare the s*** out of the kids"--the same can be said for a well-placed blow with a 2x4 between the eyes of the parents to make the situation come into clear focus. You now know you can no longer be the "laid-back parent" you said you once were--not here, not now.
     
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  18. Liv'smom

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    Shelly, Shelly, Shelly. Such violent tendencies. Should I be more frightened of you or my child's potential molester? JUST KIDDING:!: :!: :!: I will continue to be laid back. That is my personality, and believe me it took many years and some medication to become this person.
    You have to understand my definition of laid back. I won't get into it, but I can assure you it isn't, "Go ahead and sit on "Uncle Gary's" lap honey. I know we don't know him, but it's okay." I'm just not a spaz, okay? Thank you as always, for your insightfulness. I always look forward to your posts.
     
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    Well, the rest of us knew what you meant. Laid back dosen't mean negligent.;-)
     
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    Precisely. :clap_1:
     

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