Well, I'm sorry you guys didn't like the Red Bar and/or had a poor experience there.
I must say though that I really DO like it. We've been there many, many times and I've always gotten good service, I love the atmosphere, I've enjoyed the food when I've eaten there (even breakfast which I had last weekend; though you're right, Scooterbug, it's not 'fancy' but a good simple inexpensive breakfast).