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30ashopper

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Right here!
Virginia, New Jersey, and New York, the reps had a good night. The thing I find interesting is that these election wins were granted by three groups - independents, who in large numbers switched parties and voted red, energized republican and conservative voters who turned out in very large numbers, and minority groups, which failed to show up at the polls in numbers equal to the last election.

The pundits seem to be making a big deal of this being some sort of referendum on Obama. Personally I don't see it that way, I think this was a rejection of single party control in Washington. That for me is a really welcome development.

One last snarky comment - any rumors of a "new progressive era" in United States politics are, I think, dead. The clock is ticking dems, your time in the spot light is winding down. You best get to work!

The Fix - An independent move to GOP

NJ GOV: Christie Crushing Among Indies - Hotline On Call
 

Arkiehawg

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I think this was a rejection of single party control in Washington.

Not quite sure how the election of some Governors from the GOP side suggest this?

In fact, the only race that does have a direct impact on decision making in Washington was a vacant House seat in NY that went to a Democrat. The GOP had held that seat since U.S. Grant was President!
 

Geo

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The pundits seem to be making a big deal of this being some sort of referendum on Obama. Personally I don't see it that way.

Agree.

An important fact to be considered-

Since 1989, the party winning the White House has always gone on to lose the gubernatorial races in both states the following year.
 

Lynnie

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Pay attention at the deep local levels, too.
I just love mid-term elections. This to me is more about 'We the People,' with the voters knowing that the imbalance in politics is not what this country is founded upon.

This is not a stab at Dems or Reps, but rather, the people naturally balancing out our system. Obviously, 2010 will be more exciting as 1/3 of the Senators are up for re-election.

Wahoo~~~~~~~
 

kkddbb

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This is no doubt a referendum to the president, Im afraid.

Minorities and the youth dont normally vote in these elections. It was the minorities and the youth that got star struck with obama via the media and hollywood, but this kind of minipulation doesnt happen in local elections and the outcome of lastnight was a reflection of this.

The folks see the government spending widely, ignoring the regular folks and turning their backs to american traditions and structural grounds which made this country great. And the folks made that clear with their votes lastnight that will no doubt send shock waves directly to washington

This speaks volumes about 2010 and 2012 in my opinion. Actions speak louder than words and the people see little action and alot of words. And the actions they do see is everything we're not.

a republican in Jersey-WOW! speaks volumes in itself
 

Blair

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This is no doubt a referendum to the president, Im afraid.

Minorities and the youth dont normally vote in these elections. It was the minorities and the youth that got star struck with obama via the media and hollywood, but this kind of minipulation doesnt happen in local elections and the outcome of lastnight was a reflection of this.

The folks see the government spending widely, ignoring the regular folks and turning their backs to american traditions and structural grounds which made this country great. And the folks made that clear with their votes lastnight that will no doubt send shock waves directly to washington

This speaks volumes about 2010 and 2012 in my opinion. Actions speak louder than words and the people see little action and alot of words. And the actions they do see is everything we're not.

a republican in Jersey-WOW! speaks volumes in itself

Maybe....I hope it speaks more to the desire to get rid of corruption than GOP vs DEM....
 

Lynnie

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This is no doubt a referendum to the president, Im afraid.

Minorities and the youth dont normally vote in these elections. It was the minorities and the youth that got star struck with obama via the media and hollywood, but this kind of minipulation doesnt happen in local elections and the outcome of lastnight was a reflection of this.

The folks see the government spending widely, ignoring the regular folks and turning their backs to american traditions and structural grounds which made this country great. And the folks made that clear with their votes lastnight that will no doubt send shock waves directly to washington

This speaks volumes about 2010 and 2012 in my opinion. Actions speak louder than words and the people see little action and alot of words. And the actions they do see is everything we're not.

a republican in Jersey-WOW! speaks volumes in itself


I considered the demographics of this election as well and I think you are exactly right, which speaks mountains!

Run-off Mayoral Election for City of Atlanta.......female candidate is 10 points ahead, but in City of Atlanta, there has to be at least 50.01% to call the race. She's got a great shot at this and think she'll win in December. She will have a mess, but I think a great deal of support from Fed, which Atlanta hasn't had for a looooooooooog time. Wahooo~~~~~~~~
 

Geo

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This is no doubt a referendum to the president, Im afraid.

Why- because you say so?

I call BS just as I would if someone said there is no doubt that it is NOT a referendum to the president.

You seem to ignore the trend (see my previous post) and the exit polls which seek to identify why people voted the way they did.
 
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Geo

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I think I need a break. I am hypersensitive to the dems vs. repubs, us vs. them posts. I hate our party system. And hate is a word I really try to avoid using!!!
 

scooterbug44

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Geo totally nailed it - it isn't an indictment of Obama or anything of note - it's TOTALLY NORMAL that the other party does well in off year elections.

But that doesn't make for good headlines or news stories, so it MUST be something else - there's air time to fill! :roll:
 
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