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ShallowsNole

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Jun 22, 2005
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How about north to the Freeport city limits? I used to live north of the bay, south of Freeport, and the issues I face today are the same issues I faced then - rapid growth, congestion on 331 south, working and sending/taking my child to school south of the bay, trying to enjoy recreation along the beaches and the bay, and what I felt was little representation for the money I paid in taxes. In fact, I felt that more of my tax dollars back then - and yes, it was a material amount even then, even there - went to support South Walton than the Mallet/LaGrange Bayou area where we lived.

EDIT - I just remembered the water taps they put on my street were provided by the City of Freeport, and the cable TV we enjoyed had a contract with the City of Freeport, even though we were not in the city limits, so Freeport may want to annex those areas someday. I just think it's a good idea as folks that live over there are just like most of us, and it would balance some of the pretentiousness that is so, so prevalent down here today.
 
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miznotebook

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Jul 8, 2009
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What ShallowsNole is saying reminds me of something I sometimes think about when we talk about the area south of the bay. Steelefield and Bunker are further south than the south shore of the bay, but the bay doesn't go that far east. I know they are isolated, but it seems like those areas get forgotten when "south of the bay" is discussed.
 

Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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In the last couple of years Freeport has been trying to encourage folks to come into the city, and they may have had a few but I do not think it was a huge success. The cost for tap fees in Freeport was higher than South Walton through Regional Utilities. As for services that I receive outside of city limits vs inside is no different. I have access to parks, library and fire protection which is not even fully covered by the fire assessment that is assessed in the north end.
 

Robert D

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Jul 2, 2008
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[h=1]Imagine Rosemary Sea Water Grove Crest[/h] By TOM McLAUGHLIN | Daily News
Published: Friday, February 20, 2015 at 16:49 PM.




Imagine a city stretching across South Walton, encompassing everything east of Destin and west of Panama City Beach and consolidating 16 unique communities into one municipality.

It could be San Grayton Dune Color Mountain.

Or Rosemary Sea Water Grove Crest.

As absurd as the possible names might sound, so to – to some people – must be the thought that the many enclaves that give South Walton its unique character would willingly be clumped together as a single entity.

But there are those in South Walton unhappy enough with the way county government treats them to be actively exploring incorporation.

And it is quite possible there will be a move at some point to establish a Walton County city, or two, south of Choctawhatchee Bay.

“We need it to be a city. Yeah, your taxes go up, but there would be protections, and voting, a little more say in the decision process,” said Mary Sykes, a newly minted Realtor and employee of Pizza By the Sea in Seagrove Beach.

“This area is growing so fast we need a little more control.”

Not a new sentiment

The idea of incorporating is not entirely new for South Walton.

Lynn Tipton, the League of Cities representative who will present the nuts and bolts of the issue to interested parties Thursday, recalled making a similar presentation about a decade ago.

“I hadn’t heard from anybody since until about a week ago,” she said.

The push to consider incorporation is being spearheaded, again, by the South Walton Community Council, whose leaders say at this juncture they just want to look at the options.

“There’s been lots of discussion about how you do it and why,” said SWCC Vice President Blaine Dargavell. “We want people to have accurate information about incorporation so we can all understand the process and better understand the pros and cons.”

The last time the topic of incorporation came up the powerful Walton County Taxpayers Association opposed the idea.

This time around members have taken a wait and see approach.

“Incorporation would certainly have costs as well as benefits,” WCTA President Don Riley said. “The cost/benefit ratio after all aspects have been carefully explored would, in my mind, be the ultimate deciding factor.”

Hampton Inn jitters

The County Planning Commission’s Jan. 14 vote to allow construction of a Hampton Inn in Seagrove Beach helped spur the latest incorporation discussion.

“Incorporation was not even on my radar screen until a few months ago,” said Susan Lucas of Santa Rosa Beach. “The Hampton Inn led us to understand the challenges this community faces as change comes.”

Meg Nelson, who helped organize the last discussion on incorporation, said there are plenty of issues other than the Hampton Inn that South Walton residents ought to consider when deciding whether they want to take the lead in determining the area’s future.

She cited traffic, parking shortages, beach erosion and development around South Walton’s unique coastal dune lakes as other issues.

“South Walton really feels there’s a lack of county vision,” she said.

City, town or village

There are presently 411 cities, towns or villages — the state gives each moniker equal recognition — in Florida.

The village of Estero, in Lee County, stands only a March 17 vote away from becoming the newest.

Tipton said cities have been formed over the years for any number of reasons.

As an example she offered Weeki Wachee, the “only city of mermaids,” which with five residents is the state’s smallest.

Its handful of Hernando County residents incorporated, in part, so that operators of a mermaid-themed park could control the speed limit on the only road in and out.

“I tell applicants ‘when you’re looking at this, you’re comparing apples and oranges if you’re lucky,’” Tipton said. “But most of the time it’s fruit salad.”

If the South Walton incorporation movement advances past the study phase, it will be incumbent upon the leaders to conduct a thorough feasibility study and establish municipal boundaries.

There are guidelines for that too, Tipton said.

A new Florida city must be “reasonably compact and contiguous,” she said.

“You can’t create holes in the middle of the donut. It can’t be polka dotted” Tipton said. “You can’t hopscotch six miles and pick back up with it.”

The biggest challenge would-be city fathers might face trying to convince residents of 16 established communities to pull together for incorporation.

The “special nature of the community” of South Walton might also work in favor of the SWCC, said the group’s president, Kelley Mossburg, a resident of Water Sound on County Road 30A.

A visionary’s vision

Robert Davis founded Seaside, the most famous of 12 communities situated on coastal County Road 30A, in 1981.

Thirty four years later he envisions a future South Walton divided into two incorporated areas.

One would encompass the 12 30A communities and the other those areas west of the roadway, probably including Sandestin.

“I think it’s inevitable that eventually we will have a municipality down here,” he said.

Davis said he anticipates it will likely take a long time for South Walton incorporation to happen because he expects staunch resistance to the idea of the county’s wealthiest areas governing themselves.

“The county will be less than thrilled with giving up their cash cow,” he said.

Davis said he sees a “real logic” in calling a new South Walton city, town or village Seaside, because of the international brand the community has established.

He conceded, however, that a “city of 30A” would “bring its own brand.”

Davis said he could support incorporation if city planners were willing to create as part of its charter a comprehensive plan that was “not the conventional suburban development code.”

“I think there is a real opportunity, whether we create our own entity or force the county’s hand, to do something that will produce places like Seaside, Watercolor or Rosemary Beach,” he said.



WANT TO GO? Meetings to discuss the incorporation issue with a representative from the Florida League of Cities have been scheduled for 4 and 7 p.m. Thursday at the Seaside Repertory Theater in Seaside.
 

John G

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Jul 16, 2014
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In the last couple of years Freeport has been trying to encourage folks to come into the city, and they may have had a few but I do not think it was a huge success. The cost for tap fees in Freeport was higher than South Walton through Regional Utilities. As for services that I receive outside of city limits vs inside is no different. I have access to parks, library and fire protection which is not even fully covered by the fire assessment that is assessed in the north end.

How about let's start with Freeport paying back its loans to the County...
 

Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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Jeff Mc you know that some of that was worked out when the county took over Freeport FD. I think some of the issues Freeport is having is the lack of the people tapping into the sewer and water.
 

Jdarg

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Feb 15, 2005
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If you are attending one of today's SWCC meetings to learn the basics about municipal incorporation, here are a few "tips":
The Rep theatre has 75 seats, and there will be a few standing room spots available. Doors will open 15 minutes prior to the meeting start times (4 and 7). It is anticipated that there will be a line to get in, so dress warm and arrive early. Tickets will be issued to the first 75 in line, plus several additional standing room spots.
The meeting will begin with a power point presentation by Lynn Tipton, from the Florida League of Cities, followed by questions. Questions will be submitted on index cards that will be available to attendees while they are in line, and collected when the doors open and during the meeting, to be read by the moderator. This is the only way to keep the meeting moving and answer as many questions as possible as this is a meeting for general info, not a debate.
Both meetings will be videotaped and the video will be available online for those who weren't able to attend the meeting in person. There will also be media coverage.
Remember, this meeting is general information about the incorporation process, and what it can and can't do for a community. It is the start of a conversation in a formal setting, a conversation that has been informally discussed in our community for a long time. There is no information yet abut how specifically information would work for South Walton (including boundaries, services included, taxes, etc.), but I guarantee there is a lot to learn!
 

Teresa

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South Walton Looks to Form City

abcnews ch13 | mypanhandle.com

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The City of South Walton could eventually be a reality if the people living in the unincorporated southern portion of Walton County choose to become their own city.

They took one step closer to making that decision by holding a public forum that answered a lot of questions that residents had. The purpose of the event was to break down what it would really mean to become incorporated.

"The world's changed in ten years," Kelley Mossburg, President of the South Walton Community Council, said.

This is especially true in South Walton where construction and development have brought new life to the popular tourist destinations along the coast.

"The community has raised some concerns as of late in terms of the amount of development that's going on, and several people have raised the subject of incorporation and not knowing what incorporation involves and the steps and the cost and everything else," said Mossburg.

He and the rest of the SWCC decided to enlist the help of an expert. Lynn Tipton with the Florida League of Cities took the residents step by step through the process of incorporation.

"There has to be community support and a genuine desire to incorporate because you're creating a local government," said Tipton. "And that's not something to be entered into lightly; it's a very serious decision."

It's a serious decision that involves a lot of factors, such as a feasibility study, a special act passed by both the Florida House and Senate, then signed by the governor. And after all that, they hold a final vote in the community to officially become incorporated.

"This is a big step, and you don't necessarily want to rush through a decision this important," said Mossburg. "We're trying to take this in a very measured thoughtful pace. And I think over the next few weeks and months we're going to find out just how serious people are about it."

As options are explored, citizens will get the opportunity to form opinions and voice them.

"If we had our own government down here, I think it would be better for us," said Zuma Banks, a South Walton County resident. "The decisions would be better for us."

The process of becoming a municipality can take anywhere from 15 months to three years depending on how fast everything gets done.

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Jackalope

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Jan 24, 2015
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Everything south of 98 from the the intersection of 30A and 98 east to 30A and 98 west. I personally want no part of it.

I agree! I'll sit back and enjoy the show! It would interesting to watch how a city that include a bunch of absentee homeowners, part timers and investors run things.
 
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