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LuciferSam

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Ha! What about empathy towards the families of those that died in NY and their families? Why not show the same "empathy" for Americans? They can't do it,it's not politically correct.:dunno:

Easy answer for that. I'm part of the tragedy, I am an American, I don't have to huff and puff to show how much I identify with those who have suffered because I felt the full experience. You on the other hand are trying to co-opt other people's pain for personal gain. You're a prime candidate for a fail video.
 
Easy answer for that. I'm part of the tragedy, I am an American, I don't have to huff and puff to show how much I identify with those who have suffered because I felt the full experience. You on the other hand are trying to co-opt other people's pain for personal gain. You're a prime candidate for a fail video.
Yet you chastise a crazy pastor for exhibiting his constitutional right to burn a book,yet use the constitution to defend the mosque....you cannot have it both ways.You are political correctness that needs to be vaccinated.
You are a epic hypocrite.
 
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LuciferSam

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Yet you chastise a crazy pastor for exhibiting his constitutional right to burn a book,yet use the constitution to defend the mosque....you cannot have it both ways.You are political correctness that needs to be vaccinated.
You are a epic hypocrite.

Not true, I think the Pastor has every right to do what he says he's going to do. I just think it's a bad idea and he's an idiot. As for the mosque, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm not using the constitution to "defend the mosque" as you put it. I see nothing wrong with a mosque going in the proposed location, though I don't have a high opinion of the Imam associated with it.
 
I think it all boils down to intentions. The pastor's actions are purposfully petty, inflammatory and intolerant. The mosque means well, but didn't take into account American's inability to separate a religion from it's extremist fringes actions.
 

Lynnie

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The History Channel has a documentary being aired now. Not sure I can even watch it, but saw a few min. of it last night. I did not know that the first plane's Flight Attendant went against policy and made contact with the ground to inform of the hijacking. She's a hero. Evidently, with her call, we (the officials) knew when the first aircraft flew into the Tower that we were under attack and were able to react very quickly.

Admittedly, I remembered that day vividly watching this. I can almost remember every minute of that day. Being suspended in time, looking for family and friends in NYC. I was on the phone with a friend who lived in Chelsea when the second Tower collapsed (we watched it together, crying). Then, we lost connection and I didn't hear from her for four days as cell service was basically knocked out in that area. I had to turn off the documentary. I know what you're saying Douglas, but for me, it's not an inability to separate a religion from the extremists. It's just still really raw and tender. I feel for New Yorkers and all who lost loved ones, worked the rescue and are emotionally spent.

I am for the mosque being erected. I thought they had already begun looking for a different property north of the site. You're right, the Pastor seems to be using this as fuel. Crazy, crazy, crazy.
 
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scooterbug44

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9-11 was a huge deal that greatly affected many of us - I can safely say that was the scariest and worst day of my life.

But it wasn't just non-Muslims who were affected and who have dealt with the fallout from that day. It's not an either/or situation. Being a Muslim does not mean you aren't an American.

I still don't see how building this project is an affront to those who lost families on 9-11. A mosque has been in that neighborhood since before those Towers were built and the group who wants to build the project has already been at that site for over a year - BECAUSE IT'S A MUSLIM NEIGHBORHOOD.

For me, it isn't that they want to build a mosque near Ground Zero, it's that they want to expand a mosque in Little Syria.

The terrorists didn't care, they hate everyone. Which is why they killed Muslims on the planes and in the towers.

And American Muslims hate those terrorists too - which is why Muslim first responders died trying to save people in the towers and Muslims have fought and died for their country in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
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Bob

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Ha! What about empathy towards the families of those that died in NY and their families? Why not show the same "empathy" for Americans? They can't do it,it's not politically correct.:dunno:
remember the alamo/the maine/pearl harbor. want to drag that **** up for some good old fashioned racial hate? time to move on, to quit whining, to quit leaning on that event as a basis for hate. ground zero will have all the monuments and plaques we can muster. the families and responders will eventually get money, but at some point[now], we need to stop picking at the scab. the mosque argument is juvenile.
 

LuciferSam

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remember the alamo/the maine/pearl harbor. want to drag that **** up for some good old fashioned racial hate? time to move on, to quit whining, to quit leaning on that event as a basis for hate. ground zero will have all the monuments and plaques we can muster. the families and responders will eventually get money, but at some point[now], we need to stop picking at the scab. the mosque argument is juvenile.


We need a new expression, "pain whore". Somebody who exploits terrible tragedy showing fake compassion as a means of self-promotion and also as a means of dragging down perceived adversaries, who are in fact figments of the deluded pain whore's imagination.
 
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