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Wow, Big Lou, you are taking this to the mat. How come Don hasn’t produced proof that he de-classified these documents? Where is the documentation?

 

[Lou Deman]

By licking Putins balls.

Were you there? Are you jealous?

 

[Lou Deman]

I very clearly explained the differences between public opinion and legal conclusions. The property (documents) belonged to the government and Trump stole it. As far as my experience, this situation regarding the right to declassify just before leaving office and then stealing the unclassified documents is unprecedented. That is best for the courts to decide. The argument that he had that power is questionable at best.

The legal system decided that the search was warranted. Trump was not up front about the property that he stole. An informer on the inside expressed grave concern about the sensitive nature of some of the documents that were still labeled TOP SECRET, although he claims to have declassified them. The government would have every reason and right to be concerned that declassifying the stolen documents was an act of poor judgement. They also had every reason and right to question the legality of a snap decision to declassify highly sensitive documents prior to stealing them upon being fired from his job. The government gets some documents back, then they find out there are more, and Trump is even hiding them. Of course there is a court of public opinion and common sense. In no way do I imply that it takes precedence over a legal court. You seem to subscribe to the court of ignorance, rage, and denial.

LOTB
Clearly the left has thrown everything they have at Trump for the last 6+ years
If Trump stole anything he would be in jail
The argument that he had the power to declassify info isn't even in question, any president can declassify any document they wish while in office, period. This isn't even remotely in question. If you want to argue that he shouldn't have done it I can see your point.
When did we start calling people who weren't reelected 'fired'?
As far as your personal attacks these come from having a small wee wee, you'll be alright

 

[Leader of the Banned]

No. Any president cannot declassify any document without going through documented procedure. Again, please prove that he de-classified these specific documents.

I'd be willing to appease Lou just for the sake of argument that Trump could declassify the documents. The fact would remain he stole highly sensitive albeit unclassified (bullshit IMO) documents and kept them in a non-secure area. The law states that documents can be REclassified, a long as that information is not entered into the public. So yeah if Trump had stolen them and had publicly revealed formerly TOP SECRET info on Truth Social, he would still be guilty of theft and dissemination of sensitive government information. My guess is that the information has already been reclassified. The thing is, how would you know what to reclassify when the person who declassified it doesn't tell anyone or record it, and then steals it?

 

[Lou Deman]

This is an educated assessment. The only reason the DOJ hasn’t charged him is because they are trying to assess the extent of the damage. I think Matt is correct in his assessment. They have proof positive that he stole the documents. Prove positive that he obstructed justice. And the key thing is several of his lawyers are facing 10 years or more for the same charges. Why wouldn’t they turn on him?

Yet somehow, even with allllllllllllllll this proof, he hasn't been convicted of theft or obstruction. Maybe its cause everyone loves him sooooooooooooo much

 

[Leader of the Banned]

LOTB
Clearly the left has thrown everything they have at Trump for the last 6+ years
If Trump stole anything he would be in jail
The argument that he had the power to declassify info isn't even in question, any president can declassify any document they wish while in office, period. This isn't even remotely in question. If you want to argue that he shouldn't have done it I can see your point.
When did we start calling people who weren't reelected 'fired'?
As far as your personal attacks these come from having a small wee wee, you'll be alright

Like I said, ignorance, rage, and denial.

 

[PoppaJ]

Yet somehow, even with allllllllllllllll this proof, he hasn't been convicted of theft or obstruction. Maybe its cause everyone loves him sooooooooooooo much

Now that’s funny

 

[Lou Deman]

I'd be willing to appease Lou just for the sake of argument that Trump could declassify the documents. The fact would remain he stole highly sensitive albeit unclassified (bullshit IMO) documents and kept them in a non-secure area. The law states that documents can be REclassified, a long as that information is not entered into the public. So yeah if Trump had stolen them had publicly revealed formerly TOP SECRET info on Truth Social, he would still be guilty of theft and dissemination of sensitive government information. My guess is that the information has already been reclassified. The thing is, how would you know what to reclassify when the person who declassified it doesn't tell anyone or record it, and then steals it?

I agree he should not have taken any top secret documents, I can see keeping some momentums of his time in office but he should have done a better job of going through. Lets face it no one on here knows how this all went down. Did Trump just tell his people 'OK pack that pile of papers up' or did his pick through info and take strategic document? I don't know and I doubt anyone here knows. If he took them with bad intentions I don't think they would have been in a closet in one of his homes but that is just my opinion. I think we can both agree that Trump is probably a very vindictive guy, that being said if he wanted to do harm with top secret paperwork he would have done so, at least that what I would have thought. The jump I cannot make with you guys is that he would steal documents and then leave them laying around. Once again just my opinion

 

[PoppaJ]

I'd be willing to appease Lou just for the sake of argument that Trump could declassify the documents. The fact would remain he stole highly sensitive albeit unclassified (bullshit IMO) documents and kept them in a non-secure area. The law states that documents can be REclassified, a long as that information is not entered into the public. So yeah if Trump had stolen them and had publicly revealed formerly TOP SECRET info on Truth Social, he would still be guilty of theft and dissemination of sensitive government information. My guess is that the information has already been reclassified. The thing is, how would you know what to reclassify when the person who declassified it doesn't tell anyone or record it, and then steals it?

Like I said, ignorance, rage, and denial.

Jeopardy?
What are the three stages of dumbassery?

 

[Lou Deman]

Like I said, ignorance, rage, and denial.

Like I said, small wee wee