Who Belongs to the Union?Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly...

[poppy]

It's not a secret. Hannity was talking about being a member just last week.

Here's the gotcha...

There's a huge difference between having to belong to a union and wanting to belong to a union. My father in law is a retired Delta pilot. He had to belong to the pilot's union. Had no choice. He thought it sucked and didn't support them at all because most of the rank and file thought that the leadership had ulterior motives as many do. Despite that he was a card carrying dues paying member because he had no choice.

I know Hannity falls into that category because he flat said so. I'm sure the others feel the same way...

Since I can proudly say I don't listen to Hannity I stand corrected, it's not a secret.
Now instead of commenting on Wisconsin union members where he is not a member he could bemoan his own union and reveal why he feels he doesn't need them or why he feels they don't represent the best interest of the members or management. He could devote an entire show to the inner workings of this anti-American group he claims he has been forced to join.

 

[idlewind]

Since I can proudly say I don't listen to Hannity I stand corrected, it's not a secret.
Now instead of commenting on Wisconsin union members where he is not a member he could bemoan his own union and reveal why he feels he doesn't need them or why he feels they don't represent the best interest of the members or management. He could devote an entire show to the inner workings of this anti-American group he claims he has been forced to join.

Apparently you have no idea how they do TV. There are no performers marching in Times Square so whatever is going on with that union is not news. The activities in Wisconsin are big news so they are covering it. It is pure BS to expect commentators to only comment on things they are involved in instead of what people care about. Maybe operating in this manner is the reason no one watches liberals on TV.

 

[Matt J]

My only experience with a union was when I worked at Bell South. The union was optional and had no bearing on your employment.

As to required membership, this is an archaic thing left over from the very beginning of unions. One of the main reasons was that unions served the same purpose as a state licensing bureau via training, continuing ed, and verification of knowledge.

I don't agree with required membership, but the rights 100% no union mentality will be the first death nail in the middle class coffin. Do away with unions and the right will move on to minimum wage, OSHA, etc.

 

[LuciferSam]

Since I can proudly say I don't listen to Hannity I stand corrected, it's not a secret.
Now instead of commenting on Wisconsin union members where he is not a member he could bemoan his own union and reveal why he feels he doesn't need them or why he feels they don't represent the best interest of the members or management. He could devote an entire show to the inner workings of this anti-American group he claims he has been forced to join.

In other words Hannity could get real. No, he simply can't work it into the programming schedule. he's too busy reporting important news about Wisconsin that his viewers can't get from anywhere else.

 

[poppy]

Apparently you have no idea how they do TV. There are no performers marching in Times Square so whatever is going on with that union is not news. The activities in Wisconsin are big news so they are covering it. It is pure BS to expect commentators to only comment on things they are involved in instead of what people care about. Maybe operating in this manner is the reason no one watches liberals on TV.

No, what you are stating is pure BS. Conservatives are railing against unions, all unions and how they are responsible for the ills of industry in this country. They speak of how unions increase the cost of goods and affect the price of our exports putting us at a disadvantage in the global economy. Let Hannity and the rest expose the damage their own union is doing to our country. You're right I don't know TV but could it be there is no story because they like their union since maybe it only sets a minimum wage scale for the lowest paid workers and mimimum appearance fees but leaves them the freedom to bargain wages and benefits without limits. There are many liberals with a wide audience on TV but their viewers appreciate the more straight forward delivery and less of the National Enquirer type format of current events.

 

[idlewind]

No, what you are stating is pure BS. Conservatives are railing against unions, all unions and how they are responsible for the ills of industry in this country. They speak of how unions increase the cost of goods and affect the price of our exports putting us at a disadvantage in the global economy. Let Hannity and the rest expose the damage their own union is doing to our country. You're right I don't know TV but could it be there is no story because they like their union since maybe it only sets a minimum wage scale for the lowest paid workers and mimimum appearance fees but leaves them the freedom to bargain wages and benefits without limits. There are many liberals with a wide audience on TV but their viewers appreciate the more straight forward delivery and less of the National Enquirer type format of current events.

I don't see how the performer's union is damaging the country or rhat industry. But are you honestly saying that the demands of the auto workers union or the steel workers union have not negatively impacted those industries and in fact injurred the workers those unions claim to represent?

 

[poppy]

I don't see how the performer's union is damaging the country or rhat industry. But are you honestly saying that the demands of the auto workers union or the steel workers union have not negatively impacted those industries and in fact injurred the workers those unions claim to represent?

Give examples how they have.

 

[Andy A]

Give examples how they have.

Here is just one. It has been posted previously but maybe you didn't read it.:roll:
My hometown is Pueblo, Colorado. The major industry there for years was steel. The demands of the steelworker's union eventually caused CF&I to say, enough and they closed the mill. The union workers I talked to while home on leave after this happened, to a man, stated the demands made by the union hierarchy were not necessary or wanted by them. Of course you could say you would expect them to say that because at the time they said it, they were out of a job.

 

[Matt J]

Here is just one. It has been posted previously but maybe you didn't read it.:roll:
My hometown is Pueblo, Colorado. The major industry there for years was steel. The demands of the steelworker's union eventually caused CF&I to say, enough and they closed the mill. The union workers I talked to while home on leave after this happened, to a man, stated the demands made by the union hierarchy were not necessary or wanted by them. Of course you could say you would expect them to say that because at the time they said it, they were out of a job.

Must have been the unions and not companies moving jobs over seas for cheaper labor than even a non-union environment could provide.

 

[poppy]

Here is just one. It has been posted previously but maybe you didn't read it.:roll:
My hometown is Pueblo, Colorado. The major industry there for years was steel. The demands of the steelworker's union eventually caused CF&I to say, enough and they closed the mill. The union workers I talked to while home on leave after this happened, to a man, stated the demands made by the union hierarchy were not necessary or wanted by them. Of course you could say you would expect them to say that because at the time they said it, they were out of a job.

First of all, you stated in another post you were going to ignore me so please keep your word. Second, yes I read it but I was mainly referencing the statement that unions have "injured" their workers, I would strongly argue unions have made the workplace safer for all workers.