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Did you ever think maybe that's one of the reasons people have second homes in Florida and move here for their primary home...we value the natural resources and quality of life and don't want to see them destroyed.

Responsible development is fine; and if there are some regulations that need to be modified, that is fine; but, do not take a meat ax to the idea of responsible growth managment. Just my 2cents...

what we need IMO is a vibrant economic development program that looks at business and industry that is environmentally friendly...there is no reason that responsible development can't coexist with a responsible attitude toward our natural resources. It takes leadership and political will...that seems to be sorely missing in the last few years.


I love our area and love open spaces and room to roam. But you cannot have it both ways. Don't moan about the lack of quality jobs and economic development going to other places and then pass ordinances that effectively prevent that growth.
 

GoodWitch58

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I love our area and love open spaces and room to roam. But you cannot have it both ways. Don't moan about the lack of quality jobs and economic development going to other places and then pass ordinances that effectively prevent that growth.

I have not been complaining...:D
 

Bob Wells

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How is it balanced for some group based up north to tell me I have to let a good worker go unless they join the group? And how is it balanced if I cannot replace the group of workers because their demands will bankrupt my company?
Again, I am sorry that my opinion is different thans yours. I don't believe I said anything about balance, you did. I was just explaining why I did not believe your thoughts were balanced. Again, I apologize for my opinion.
Also my screen name reverted back to my former self.
Bob Wells
 
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Again, I am sorry that my opinion is different thans yours. I don't believe I said anything about balance, you did. I was just explaining why I did not believe your thoughts were balanced. Again, I apologize for my opinion.
Also my screen name reverted back to my former self.
Bob Wells


No need to apologize, you have every right in the world to be wrong.;-)

Just kidding.
 

poppy

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Again, I am sorry that my opinion is different thans yours. I don't believe I said anything about balance, you did. I was just explaining why I did not believe your thoughts were balanced. Again, I apologize for my opinion.
Also my screen name reverted back to my former self.
Bob Wells

You never need to apologize for your opinion.
 

Matt J

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It's interesting that you think Florida's lack of unions is somehow going to bring manufacturing here. Back in the late 80's Miller wanted to build a brewing/bottling plant in Leon County. The BCC at the time panicked at the thought of a union coming to town and turned them down, zoning changes not tax incentives. The plant is now located just outside of Albany GA which welcomed it with open arms.
 

beachmouse

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Those regulations you scoff at are what currently protect the 90% of the workforce that is not union.

Changing those will be a hard political sell.

Have you seen some of the bills the Tea Party has been introducing into state legislatures these days- effectively remove all child labor laws, get rid of the minimum wage, pretty much a huge race to the bottom in terms of treating the worker with dignity, respect, and fairness.


We've been seeing this now for a number of decades, states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are loosing business to Right-To-Work states like Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and South Carolina. The positive impact this has had on american manufacturing is substantial.

And the right to work states have in turn now lost those jobs to even cheaper labor in China, Vietnam, etc. Look at the garment and furniture industries, which were comfortable blue collar employment for a long time in the non-union South. See how few of those shops remain compare to 20-30 years ago. There used to be a good number of garment factories along the FL/AL line here, and now few, if any, remain. And it now takes a pretty active search to find mid-level furniture that was made in good old North Carolina and not China.
 
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