Why our associations matter

[RayStar]

I am glad this subject is being addressed. It made me think of the websites many use to express themselves only to have it bite them very hard later. I do hope not all associations will be held against a qualified applicant.

 

[poppy]

I'll be the one to take the hit. No he would not pass his own Questionnaire. He could not get any high clearance government job.

Anyone can take any associations and make them sound dangerous.

John McCain confessed that not only did he not report for duty for 5+ years but during this entire time he was a guest of our enemy!:shock:

 

[hnooe]

Can I go out on a limb here and say that probably every single person over the age of 20 has at some point in his/her life had questionable affliations in their life, made friends with people who today would turn us off, etc, etc...

Exactly, how does one learn and develope into their own person, become their own politition, unless they have access to and knowledge of evil, the negative,etc...
Any mature person or politician has seen or had some type of alliance with figures in their life that they don't necessarily regret per se, since it gives them PERSECTIVE--the skills to know it and avoid it, when they see it in the future.

 

[Andy A]

Exactly, how does one learn and develope into their own person, become their own politition, unless they have access to and knowledge of evil, the negative,etc...
Any mature person or politician has seen or had some type of alliance with figures in their life that they don't necessarily regret per se, since it gives them PERSECTIVE--the skills to know it and avoid it, when they see it in the future.

This is extremely idealistic, to say the least. I never needed to associate with evil, the negative, etc... to not know it when I saw it. No need for PERSPECTIVE here.

 

[LuciferSam]

This is extremely idealistic, to say the least. I never needed to associate with evil, the negative, etc... to not know it when I saw it. No need for PERSPECTIVE here.

I think his statement is the exact opposite of idealism if you ask me. I'ts idealistic and naive to think that every important associate in life is going to be squeaky clean.

 

[idlewind]

I think his statement is the exact opposite of idealism if you ask me. I'ts idealistic and naive to think that every important associate in life is going to be squeaky clean.

I certainly don't think anyone over 16 has a "squeaky clean" past, but this is not the point. The point is that Mr. Obama and his questionaire does not seem to be practicing what he is preaching because the case could be made he himself cannot pass his own questionaire.

 

[lerxst]

That was my point exactly Idelwind.
Yesterday's interview with that unrepentant "one" William Ayers on Good Morning America is what prompted me to start this post.

the 4th rule of a community organizer is....

"make the enemy live up to their own rules"
Saul Alinsky
Rules for Radicals

oh, the irony

 

[idlewind]

Lerxst, you are intolerant, divisive and a downright meanie.

I love ya for it.

Keep up the good work.:boxing:

 

[Jdarg]

That was my point exactly...
Yesterday's interview with that unrepentant "one" William Ayers on Good Morning America is what prompted me to start this post.

the 4th rule of a community organizer is....

"make them live up to their own rules"
Saul Alinsky
Rules for Radicals

oh, the irony

I guess different people took away different points from the Ayers interview. I saw it as yet another affirmation that he was just yet another involved Chicagoan, one of many that Obama had come in contact with throughout his years of being involved in local community affairs. No sinister relationship, nothing much of anything, really. I really don't see how Obama could have totally avoided him, since Ayers is very involved in local educational issues.

Another one of those "move on, nothing to see" issues.

 

[idlewind]

I guess different people took away different points from the Ayers interview. I saw it as yet another affirmation that he was just yet another involved Chicagoan, one of many that Obama had come in contact with throughout his years of being involved in local community affairs. No sinister relationship, nothing much of anything, really. I really don't see how Obama could have totally avoided him, since Ayers is very involved in local educational issues.

Another one of those "move on, nothing to see" issues.

You are right, I guess Goebbels was just an involved citizen of Munich.