Surfrider Member meeting

[Bobby J]

Interesting comments...what is meant by "maintaining the area's beaches in the future"; aren't they maintained well now? They look and seem to function better now than they did in mid-July 2005.
Also, how many Surfrider Foundations advocates own Gulf front property? I can't afford Gulf front property at today's prices, but I certainly have no right to infringe on the rights of Gulf front property owners and it sounds like you folks want to have control of the beach property without paying for it. Am I wrong?

I have no clue how you came to this conclusion after reading that? I would respond but truly do not understand your comment. I have read the article twice and feel you may be reading something into it that it not there. We try to protect beach access for all. You can go to www.surfrider.org to find out what we are all about. An editorial from a local paper does not define our functions. Here is Surfriders mission:

The Surfrider Foundation is a non-profit environmental organization dedicated to the protection and enjoyment of the world's oceans, waves and beaches for all people, through conservation, activism, research and education.

If you still feel confused please give me a call @ 850-865-7798. I would love to chat about Surfrider. This group is not looking to fight anyone just help educate the community.

 

[John R]

Interesting comments...what is meant by "maintaining the area's beaches in the future"; aren't they maintained well now? They look and seem to function better now than they did in mid-July 2005.
Also, how many Surfrider Foundations advocates own Gulf front property? I can't afford Gulf front property at today's prices, but I certainly have no right to infringe on the rights of Gulf front property owners and it sounds like you folks want to have control of the beach property without paying for it. Am I wrong?

nice opening volley.

so, you're ok with beachfront owners armoring their property and encroaching on public lands? as what's clearly happened on montgomery street. am i wrong? you're ok with raw sewage being drained into the water where you swim? your statement of 'you folks' seems quite single minded towards an organization that has a broader mission than 'control of the beach property'. there is a link to the surfider site above, you must have missed it.

aren't they maintained well now? are you kidding? if they were maintained well, i'm thinking there wouldn't be threads like crap on the beach and all the discussion that follows. garbage left on the beach, diapers, cigarette butts, tents up for a week at a time, huge holes, etc. you get the picture. other beaches i've lived at are maintained much more here.

in my view, there is no maintenance. it seems like our politicians have rested on the allure and benefits of our white sand and emerald waters and just reap the tax money without putting much back into infrastructure or preservation. and other politicians hit and run. in reality, these are our, the voters, problems, and any help we can get through any advocacy group is to our benefit.

regarding the number of members of surfrider who own beachfront property, i can't answer that question, but i'm sure there are. i know a friend of mine who has beach property in san jose del cabo is a member.

 

[Miss Kitty]

^5, John R.

 

[BMBWalker]

nice opening volley.

so, you're ok with beachfront owners armoring their property and encroaching on public lands? as what's clearly happened on montgomery street. am i wrong? you're ok with raw sewage being drained into the water where you swim? your statement of 'you folks' seems quite single minded towards an organization that has a broader mission than 'control of the beach property'. there is a link to the surfider site above, you must have missed it.

aren't they maintained well now? are you kidding? if they were maintained well, i'm thinking there wouldn't be threads like crap on the beach and all the discussion that follows. garbage left on the beach, diapers, cigarette butts, tents up for a week at a time, huge holes, etc. you get the picture. other beaches i've lived at are maintained much more here.

in my view, there is no maintenance. it seems like our politicians have rested on the allure and benefits of our white sand and emerald waters and just reap the tax money without putting much back into infrastructure or preservation. and other politicians hit and run. in reality, these are our, the voters, problems, and any help we can get through any advocacy group is to our benefit.

regarding the number of members of surfrider who own beachfront property, i can't answer that question, but i'm sure there are. i know a friend of mine who has beach property in san jose del cabo is a member.

John R...I wonder if the surfers out this morning are aware of the sewage in the water and crap on the beach? Looks like they don't have your perspective of the beach or Gulf. I try and walk the beach everyday and I haven't seen evidence of this. Could you direct me to a spot on BMB where this is occuring?

BTW, please don't try and put words in my mouth; I'm sure you can communicate better than that.

 

[John R]

John R...I wonder if the surfers out this morning are aware of the sewage in the water and crap on the beach? Looks like they don't have your perspective of the beach or Gulf. I try and walk the beach everyday and I haven't seen evidence of this. Could you direct me to a spot on BMB where this is occuring?

BTW, please don't try and put words in my mouth; I'm sure you can communicate better than that.

ok if i get back to you after i respond to your inane post in the redfish thread?

 

[Bobby J]

John R...I wonder if the surfers out this morning are aware of the sewage in the water and crap on the beach? Looks like they don't have your perspective of the beach or Gulf. I try and walk the beach everyday and I haven't seen evidence of this. Could you direct me to a spot on BMB where this is occuring?

BTW, please don't try and put words in my mouth; I'm sure you can communicate better than that.

Not sure about the surfers but The Surfrider Foundation is probably aware. We do beach cleanups and water testing. Our area water testing is good but beach cleanups are horrible. Trash is everywhere. If you walk the beach everyday you should see this. We have beautiful beaches comparitively speaking. Lets not compare and demand the best! I have been walking these beaches since I was a little boy and have seen things on the beaches I never dreamed of.

 

[30A Skunkape]

Can't we all just get along?!:roll:

 

[Bobby J]

Gladly agree....

 

[John R]

John R...I wonder if the surfers out this morning are aware of the sewage in the water and crap on the beach? Looks like they don't have your perspective of the beach or Gulf. I try and walk the beach everyday and I haven't seen evidence of this. Could you direct me to a spot on BMB where this is occuring?

you're funny. that was a rhetorical question right? every surfer on the planet is aware of the condition of the water and the beaches. BTW, i'm sorry i included God's beach in my blanket statement. i'm sure BMB is pristine with no garbage on it, or pesky bacteria/sewage invading past the sacred property lines. my statement was a little more broad in it's scope. i care for the condition of the water in the keys, off of NJ, and even BMB. but, there isn't really anything out there past the confines of BMB, truman.

BTW, please don't try and put words in my mouth; I'm sure you can communicate better than that.

yeah, sorry. my mistake.

so, SOUNDS LIKE you're ok with beachfront owners armoring their property and encroaching on public lands?...am i wrong?

...it sounds like you folks want to have control of the beach property without paying for it. Am I wrong?

i too made a supposition with a statement totally unrelated to the primary topic.

i'm thinking your stance on the taking of public lands will be opposite mine.

enjoy.

 

[BMBWalker]

I have no clue how you came to this conclusion after reading that? I would respond but truly do not understand your comment. I have read the article twice and feel you may be reading something into it that it not there. We try to protect beach access for all. You can go to www.surfrider.org to find out what we are all about. An editorial from a local paper does not define our functions. Here is Surfriders mission:

The Surfrider Foundation is a non-profit environmental organization dedicated to the protection and enjoyment of the world's oceans, waves and beaches for all people, through conservation, activism, research and education.

If you still feel confused please give me a call @ 850-865-7798. I would love to chat about Surfrider. This group is not looking to fight anyone just help educate the community.

Bobbie J...the conclusion came very easily. Please read below:

The Surfrider Foundation also believes in keeping the beaches open to everyone, and works to prevent beach privatization.

The above statement was in the SoWalSally post...works to prevent beach privatization sounds like someone trying to control the use of either the beach itself or the property rights of a beach property owner to me.

Since you are a board member of this organization, is this statement an element of your articles of incorporation? What type of foundation is this: 501 c(3), 501 c(6) or other? In which state is this not-for-profit organization incorporated?

Also, what is the IRS identification number of this not-for-profit organization?